Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ccunix.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!mb2c!umich!ccunix!paul From: paul@ccunix.UUCP (Paul Killey) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: ULTRIX futures? Message-ID: <112@ccunix.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Feb-86 04:36:18 EST Article-I.D.: ccunix.112 Posted: Wed Feb 12 04:36:18 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Feb-86 01:28:31 EST References: <763@brl-smoke.ARPA> Reply-To: paul@umich.UUCP (Paul Killey) Organization: University of Michigan, Computing Center, Ann Arbor, MI Lines: 34 Summary: In article <763@brl-smoke.ARPA> David C. Stewart) writes: > >. Here they go again, folks. The Shein/Gwyn Unix debates >round 10. This seems to come up about once every 6 months or so. > >There is so much value-judgement and emotional weighting that you can't >really see the forest for the trees. > I disagree with the sentiment, expressed here by Dave Stewart and others, about the exchange of views. I think it's important to hear what can be presented in a non-confrontational manner. We have all heard propaganda wars, complete with droll wit and saucy caprice, various polemics and so on, but not in this instance (yet). For people that have to make decisions about gear, OS selection, and so on that will dictate the computing environment for thousands of people (like here, at UoM), and spend some large N of taxpayers' dollars, there had better be a way to make some informed decisions. The local computing infrastructure cannot say something like "oh well, it's religion anyway, let's flip a coin" and claim to be providing its consituency a worthwhile service. There is a large element of religiosity, but there are also more pragmatic considerations. I can see this "these are worthless emotional arguments" point of view from Stewart here as a company's point of view writ small. Tektronix has not been the shrewdest player in the Unix game, has it? Hmmmmm. Wonder why not? And, if you do want a religious questions ... "how many Tek Unix wizards can dance on the head of a pin?" --paul