Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ism780c.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!ism780c!tim From: tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) Newsgroups: net.veg Subject: Re: Is a dead bird the best way to show your appreciation???? Message-ID: <324@ism780c.UUCP> Date: Fri, 24-Jan-86 23:52:43 EST Article-I.D.: ism780c.324 Posted: Fri Jan 24 23:52:43 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 26-Jan-86 05:37:54 EST References: <421@decwrl.DEC.COM> <862@umn-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Santa Monica, CA Lines: 28 > And - in answer to the question of why it's okay for animals to > eat meat and not man: Man has the option, the capacity to use > higher reasoning and live by a morally higher standard. Animals > don't have those choices. > > [ killing animals for food vs. killing animals for furs ] All this argument really says is that it is ok for non-higher-reasoning beings to eat meat because even if it is not moral to do so, they do not have the capacity to decide this. This argument says nothing about the morality of eating meat. And how about the morality of killing plants? [ note: no :-) ] I see no inconsistency in eating meat but objecting to having animals killed for their fur. There are other substances that can be used to make fake furs that do not involve killing animals, and are just as good or better than animal fur both functionally and esthetically (sp?). When the technology of fake food gets to where, say, fake steaks and hamburgers can be produced that are as good as the originals, both nutritionally AND in taste/texture, then it will be time to stop killing cattle. Similarly for other meat animals. Wouldn't net.misc be a better group for this? I would assume that most people who read net.veg are vegetarians, and so a more general group, like net.misc, would be more likely to get no-vegetarians involved. -- Tim Smith sdcrdcf!ism780c!tim || ima!ism780!tim || ihnp4!cithep!tim