Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!bullwinkle!batcomputer!cheryl From: cheryl@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (cheryl) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Career vs. Relationship? Message-ID: <181@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Date: Mon, 27-Jan-86 12:38:55 EST Article-I.D.: batcompu.181 Posted: Mon Jan 27 12:38:55 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 29-Jan-86 05:33:45 EST References: <481@ssc-vax.UUCP> <2340@reed.UUCP> <2341@reed.UUCP> <8653@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: cheryl@batcomputer.UUCP () Distribution: na Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY Lines: 32 In article <8653@amdcad.UUCP> phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) writes: >In article <2341@reed.UUCP> ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) writes: >>It probably seems selfish of me to flatly expect that any SO of >>mine, particularly any male, must allow me to do all these >>things I've planned for myself, but remember that men have >>expected this of women for centuries. In my life, I intend to >>turn the tables, and I expect that anyone who is radical enough >>to tolerate me for long periods of time will understand this. >>If there aren't that many around who will ... at least I'll be >>finding quality when I find one. > >Or a wimp. >-- > This may not even represent *my* opinion. I sure hope not, because I'm gonna flame it (flame opinions, not people!) I think that it is beautiful and wonderful for a man to give up his independence, economic autonomy, career, and education for his woman. I do *not* think that women should do this. It is beneath a woman's dignity to give up everything she stands for in the interests of an harmonious domestic life. If a man wants a well-kept house, a nice dinner when he comes home from work, and his kids to be well looked after, then he can damn well do it all himself. Me, I'll eat out of the fridge (or just plain eat out), clean my house once a year (whether it needs it or not), and avoid the concept of progeny until I can afford a governess or something. Ellen isn't being selfish, she's being realistic. Whether a man is a wimp or not is irrelevant, except to other men. What really matters is what he does for his woman. Cheryl