Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdcsu.UUCP
Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!burl!clyde!watmath!watnot!watdcsu!dmcanzi
From: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Amalgam (long) Retort (longer)
Message-ID: <2070@watdcsu.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 6-Feb-86 05:05:55 EST
Article-I.D.: watdcsu.2070
Posted: Thu Feb  6 05:05:55 1986
Date-Received: Sat, 8-Feb-86 05:14:32 EST
References: <2413@reed.UUCP>
Reply-To: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi)
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario
Lines: 31
Summary: 

In article <2413@reed.UUCP> chism@reed.UUCP (Christine N Chism) writes:
>In Amalgam(Long) Eric McColm writes:
>
>        On Ellen's comment (I think) that she was unwilling to
>        give 50% to get 50% in her life, because of past
>        discrimination, and the related argument that to be free
>        of stereotypes one must live apart from them, not just
>        against them:  Ideally, you should be able to live any way
>        you want.  Unfortunately, the pressure to live within the
>        stereotypes still exists, which makes it difficult to live
>        apart from the oppression that one still feels, and and to
>        which others still succumb.  Once the pressure ceases, women
>        can live their lives any way they want, apart from the
>        stereotypical role models.  Until then, women are forced
>        to live either within these confined roles, or in defiance
>        of them.  Greater freedom does not yet exist.
>
>    Forgive me for pitching into you like this but who are you to limit
>    my alternatives? ...

Poor Eric.  I've seen this happen to him on another occasion, where
something he said in perfect innocence was misinterpreted and people
leapt down his throat for it.  Eric was simply describing what he
thinks is the way things are.  If I tell you that you can't jump off a
cliff and fly by flapping your arms, am I guilty of limiting your
alternatives?  Is bad news the fault of the messenger?
-- 
David Canzi

"Mothers are fonder than fathers of their children because they are more
certain they are their own." -- Aristotle