Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU Path: utzoo!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!bullwinkle!batcomputer!leary From: leary@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Pat Leary) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: In defense of Cheryl Message-ID: <217@batcomputer.TN.CORNELL.EDU> Date: Fri, 7-Feb-86 16:55:26 EST Article-I.D.: batcompu.217 Posted: Fri Feb 7 16:55:26 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 9-Feb-86 01:49:12 EST Reply-To: leary@batcomputer.UUCP (Pat Leary) Distribution: na Organization: Theory Center, Cornell University, Ithaca NY Lines: 17 Just to add a new & different note to the discussion, I would like to say that I must agree with some of the points Cheryl has raised. And don't think I'm saying this just because she's a co-worker of mine; I'll be the first to admit that she's an obnoxious bitch (only joking, Cheryl, only joking...) Some of you have said that yes, there are men who are sexist assholes, but (and I quote) "that's their problem." The point is, however, that it's also very much women's problem; to pretend otherwise is like saying racism was just the "problem" of the Southern lynch-mobs who held those racist attitudes. Similarly, I believe that women do have the right to criticize other women (civilly, one hopes) who behave like female Uncle Toms, because what one individual does ultimately *does* affect others. If enough females accept lower pay in my field, that will become the standard for my field; if enough females make the "individual decision" to follow their husbands at the ex- pense of their own careers, it will become (or reinforce) the standard ex- pectation in society that women should follow their husbands. So what others do *can* hurt me.