Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!ailist From: albert@KIM.BERKELEY.EDU (Anthony Albert) Newsgroups: mod.ai Subject: Re: Technology Review article Message-ID: <8602240221.AA10299@kim.berkeley.edu> Date: Sun, 23-Feb-86 21:21:59 EST Article-I.D.: kim.8602240221.AA10299 Posted: Sun Feb 23 21:21:59 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Mar-86 18:01:09 EST References: , ucdavis!lll-crg!amdcad!amd! hplabs!fortune!redwood!rpw3@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (Rob Warnock) writes: > > >+ >| The [Technology Review] article was written by the Dreyfuss brothers, who >| claim... that people do not learn to ride a bike by being told how to do >| it, but by a trial and error method that isn't represented symbolically. >+ > >Hmmm... Something for these guys to look at is Seymour Papert's work >in teaching >such skills as bicycle riding, juggling, etc. by *verbal* and *written* means. >That's not to say that some trial-and-error practice is not needed, but that >there is a lot more that can be done analytically than is commonly assumed. The Dreyfuses (?) understand that learning can occur analytically and consciously at first. But in the stages from beginner to expert, the actions become less and less conscious. I imagine Mr. Warnock's juggling (mentioned further on in the article) followed the same path; when practicing a skill, one doesn't think about it constantly, one lets it blend into the background. -- Anthony Albert ..!ucbvax!kim!albert albert@kim.berkeley.edu