Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!eddie!gds From: gds@eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <223@eddie.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Feb-86 20:55:45 EST Article-I.D.: eddie.223 Posted: Mon Feb 17 20:55:45 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Feb-86 01:06:43 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 145 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Monday, February 17, 1986, 20:55 Today's Topics: J. Lippard/MJ Michael Jackson's religious beliefs stuff... Jello on MTV [][][][][][][][][][] From: ambar@ATHENA.MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 09:06:48 EST Subject: J. Lippard/MJ Just a note: Michael Jackson is a devout Jehovah's Witness, NOT a Seventh-Day Adventist! (Definitely not the same thing, nor even close--) Jean [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 14:13 MST From: "James J. Lippard" Subject: Michael Jackson's religious beliefs Reply-To: Lippard@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA Oh well. Thanks for the correction. I can't remember for sure, but I think I got that piece of misinformation out of the newspaper--the Arizona Republic, which is not exactly the paragon of accuracy. Jim (Lippard at MIT-MULTICS.ARPA) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 18:43:18 EST From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu) Subject: stuff... Re: desert island cassettes Hey hofmann, no fair using C90 cassettes! This way I could have squeezed all my "2nd 10" selections in too. Well, I guess since I got to name my 2nd 10, and Tim included lots of multiple album sets, makes it even :-)... Where can I find Bill Lazur's stuff? Is he in that Rough Trade catalog that I should be getting in the mail any day now?? Thanks to Doug for forwarding my Art Zoyd request. Since I didn't get any responses to my Univers Zero and However requests, I assume the two albums I'll review will not be old hat to everybody: HOWEVER SUDDEN DUSK However is on the Random Radar label, which I have never heard of before this. They included a little brochure with the album. Fred Frith does some stuff for them, so they're probably cool... :-) Anyway, However plays acoustically flavored chamber music/rock, almost like Birdsongs of the Mesozoic. 3 or 4 of the 10 tracks have lyrics. The songs are the strong points, since the band seems more focussed with lyrics to work from. Most songs are fast, zany and clever, kind of like free jazz and Captain Beefheart. The instrumentals have some nice sounds, but tend to wander and the bad parts have a dangerous tendency to resemble the worst of Wyndham Hill/New Age things. (This is NOT a slight of WH in general, please note!) UNIVERS ZERO HERESIE Imagine the world disintegrating around you. The heat death of the universe approaches. On a barren windswept desert plain, a group of musicians play a quiet music of death and decay. This is Univers Zero... Purple prose aside, Univers Zero plays relatively lowkey, rock and jazz influenced modern chamber music. If you're into comparisons, they sound like a mixture of Arnold Schoenberg, Joy Division and Chrome, without a dominant beat. They play pretty depressing and dissonant music on mostly acoustic instruments. Their sound is not very varied, so the long pieces sound really LONGGGGGG (their tracks are timed at 12, 13 and 25 minutes!) My French is not good enough to decipher the few lyrics. Despite all this, I feel they're still worth looking into for a unique experience. At least they have cool band pictures...:-) By the way, thanks to hofmann for the Plan 9 recommendation. FRUSTRATION was a nice neo-psychedelic fix... Bill Hsu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 6 Feb 86 19:09 MST From: "James J. Lippard" Subject: Jello on MTV Reply-To: Lippard@MIT-MULTICS.ARPA I got this off a local BBS. Absolute message # 934 Author: HAYSI FANTAYZEE Date: Feb 06, 1986 Time: 05:18:55 Pm Title: Jello Biafra on MTV We have a song, "MTV Get Off the Air." MTV is the worst thing to happen to music since Saturday Night Fever. It's bringing back every stupid cliche', sexism, racism. For example, word has it they wouldn't play anything by anybody unless their skin was white until CBS threatened to yank all their other videos off the air unless they played Michael Jackson. The Rick James suit didn't hurt either, I'm sure. The crux of MTV was stated by one of the guys running it in an interview in the Sunday Chronicle-Examiner. When he was asked why there wasn't any black music on MTV, his answer was, "We don't want to cater to fringe groups." And the color of a person's skin determines whether or not they are a fringe group. That kind of attitude is just the glitzy neon version of trying to bring back the Eisenhower era. Rock 'n' roll is a tool of the state at this point. Look what kind of rock 'n' roll gets on the radio: "I love you, baby. Suck my dick." Or if you're female and you want to get on the radio: "I'll love you baby. I'll suck your dick." Part of the line in "MTV Get Off the Air" is when the DJ says, "Don't create, be sedate." That's what they're pushing: don't think, consume! Don't go outside and see what our country's like. Sit inside and watch television. They've finally figured out a way to get people to watch television commercials 24 hours a day! -- Jello Biafra, of the Dead Kennedys Jim (Lippard at MIT-MULTICS.ARPA) [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu