Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!gds From: gds@mit-eddie.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: mod.music Subject: Love-Hounds Digest Message-ID: <31@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Feb-86 17:26:02 EST Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.31 Posted: Tue Feb 25 17:26:02 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 03:02:59 EST Organization: MIT Lusers and Hosers Inc., Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 346 Approved: gds@eddie.mit.edu Love-Hounds Digest Tuesday, February 25, 1986, 17:27 Today's Topics: Re: Love-Hounds Digest (2 msgs) Re: The Victims && Young Marble Giants Trivia Kiss ... A quasi-Greg Earle anti-critic flame :-) ((((((((((((($$$))))))))))))))) Music! [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 18 Feb 1986 18:51-PST Sender: CDONALDSON@USC-ISIF.ARPA Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest From: CDONALDSON@USC-ISIF.ARPA For the curious, what follows is the results of the Village Voice Annual Pazz and Jop Critics Poll. **Albums** 1. Talking Heads: Little Creatures 1078(99) 2. The Replacements: Tim 865(82) 3. John Cougar Mellancamp: Scarecrow 637(53) 4. Tom Waits: Rain Dogs 607(59) 5. Artists United Against Apartheid: Sun City 569(43) 6. Husker Du: Flip Your Wig 535(51) 7. R.E.M.: Rables of the Reconstruction 526(52) 8. Husker Du: New Day Rising 457(43) 9. Aretha Franklin: Who's Zooming Who? 407(41) 10.John Fogerty: Centerfield 392(37) 11.Sam Cooke: Live at the Harlem Sqare Club 391(34) 12.The Velevet Underground: VU 370(31) 13.Richard Thompson:Across a Crowded 321(13) 14.Sade: Diamond Life 283(30) 15.Go Go Crankin' 264(29) 16.Bob Dylan: Biograph 263(22) 17.Lost in the Stars: The Music of Kurt Well 252(22) 18.Kate Bush: Hounds of Love 236(24) 19.The Blasters: Hard Line 235(25) 20.Dire Straits: Brothers In Arms 223(23) 21.Sting: The Dream of the Blue Turtles 223(22) 22.Jason and the Scorchers: Lost and Found 212(23) 23.Meat Puppets: Up the Sun 186(20) 24.Lone Justice:Lone Justice 186(17) 25.The Jesus and Mary Chain: Psychocandy 175(15) 26.The Mekons: Fear and Whiskey 168(16) 27.The Golden Palominos: Visions of Excess 165(16) 28.Prefab Sprout: Two Wheels Good 162(17) 29.Don Henly: Building the Perfect Beat 161(13) 30.Luther Vandross: The Night I Fell in Love 161(14) 31.Bryan Ferry: Boys and Girls 154(15) 32.Run-D.M.C. 151(15) 33.Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians: Fegmania 150(18) 34.Ruben Blades y Seis del Solar: Escenas 149(15) 35.Marshall Crenshaw: Downtown 148(16) 36.Professor Longhair: Rock'n'Roll Gumbo 134(13) 37.L.L. Cool J: Radio 132(12) 38.Marti Jones: Unsophisticated Time 131(15) 39.Suzanne Vega: Suzanne Vega 130(14) 40 The Minutemen: 3-Way Tie (for Last) 130(11) This poll compiles ballots from 238 critics, each of whom divided 100 points among 10 1985 LPs. Maximum points per album: 30. Minimum 5. Points determined placements, with the total mentions (indicated in parentheses) used to break ties. ... inter alia, "Running Up That Hill" placed 10th in the singles poll where "Sun City" was voted number one. Gerry Additional Queries Doug, what is KB's current hair style? Is it similar to the picture on the imported 12'' "Cloudbusting" single? Apparently she is sporting a rather short haircut these days. Jordan, being that you are residing in the Bay Area, can you relate the recent history ( or the past demise) of The Victims, a band whose single "100% White Girl" amused me a few years back. Anyone: What has become of the Young Marble Giants? I have in my possession "Colossal Youth" on Rough Trade records. What else did they record? [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Feb 86 19:18:47 PST From: jordan@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu (Jordan Hayes) Subject: Re: The Victims && Young Marble Giants I don't know anything about the Victims ... never heard of the weenies ... I only have Collosal Youth as well, although I usta have a 7"er of looking for mr right b/w cakewalking ... if anyone else knows the whereabouts of Young Marble Giants, send it along. cluBLAND sf style ... saw blanc MANGe the other night at wolfgangs ... too much hairspray at that one ... haven't seen this many trendies since FLOck of haircuts ... opening band was definitely something to YAWN home about ... bourgeois tagg ... with two g-eeze ... the word dick-whACK comes to mind ... copacabana gone to its LOGICal extREMITies ... too many dotz for me ... why do i even try ...? /jordan [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: Date: Tue, 18 Feb 86 17:01:19 pst From: ia-sun2!smeagol!gorbag!earle@csvax.caltech.edu (Greg Earle) Subject: Trivia Wrigley's Fun Fact: If I'm not mistaken, the "Shel Talmy" who posted a request for a CompuPro system (article <36@randvax.UUCP>) from Rand Corp. in Santa Monica CA (posted to net.micro.*, net.wanted, na.forsale) is the same "Shel Talmy" who produced the early Kinks ("You Really Got Me") and Who ("I Can't Explain") records. I vaguely recall seeing an article in the NME or somewhere saying he'd pissed off to California and was now into computers ... You can look it up. Hey hof ... Wrigley's Fun Fact #2: Get an L.A.-ite to send ya a copy of the latest Scratch Magazine (chronicles the lifes and times of the Hollywood/Melrose Ave. Elite) Has two not-to-be-missed features: (1) Article/Pix of SAMHAIN (would I lie to you?), and (2) the infamous 1986 Scratch Magazine Hollywood Pin-Up Calendar (!!!!) - features Texacala Jones (tex & The Horseheads) as Miss October, and Pleasant Gehman (Screamin' Sirens) as Miss May. But forget them, check out Miss(es) January and Miss February ... YOWZA!! Greg Earle JPL Spacecraft Data Systems group sdcrdcf!smeagol!earle (UUCP) ia-sun2!smeagol!earle@csvax.caltech.edu (ARPA) [][][][][][][][][][] From think!harvard!uwvax!astroatc!gtaylor Wed Feb 19 12:56:14 1986 Received: by EDDIE.MIT.EDU (5.31/4.7) id AA05495; Wed, 19 Feb 86 12:56:04 EST Received: from harvard.HARVARD.EDU by GODOT.THINK.COM; Wed, 19 Feb 86 11:34:57 est Received: by harvard.HARVARD.EDU; Wed, 19 Feb 86 11:35:08 EST Received: from astroatc.UUCP by rsch.wisc.edu; Wed, 19 Feb 86 09:18:57 CST Received: by astroatc.UUCP (4.12/4.7) id AA00592; Wed, 19 Feb 86 08:43:57 cst Date: Wed, 19 Feb 86 08:43:57 cst From: think!harvard!uwvax!astroatc!gtaylor (Greg Taylor) Message-Id: <8602191443.AA00592@astroatc.UUCP> To: harvard!think!mit-eddie!gds Subject: Re: Love-Hounds Digest Newsgroups: mod.music In-Reply-To: <225@mit-eddie.UUCP> Organization: Astronautics ATC, Madison, WI Status: R >If anyone thinks they know >how "aresh aresh tomp pare hairdo" should really read, or knows what a >"Cop Boutique" is, please let me know: I'm surprised that a dedicated obscurantist such as yourself could miss where "aresh" comes from.....after all, the author's name is right there in the song! Yep, good old Marcel Brust -oops, that's Proust. The real title is "A la Recherche du Temps Perdu", translated in English as "The Remembrance of Things Past." It's a 3 volume set of 7 "books" in the most elliptical Frogspeak you can imagine whose siren charms are known to all. It is the novelistic equivalent of very good brandy. It will either entirely captivate your or put you right to sleep, just like you-know-who. Je pense, donc j'essuie, gtaylor [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 15 Feb 86 15:01:00 EST From: Hofmann Subject: Kiss ... Picked up the new prince 45 yesterday entitled kisses - if you like the erotic city minimalist funk, you might want to check it out, it's even more minimal than that ... though you may want to wait for the dance mix 12" ... this 45 is apparently the precursor to his next album and includes a b-side not slated for that work... ---------------------------------- "you have arms/you have legs/you have freedom" - Robyn hofmann [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 17 Feb 86 14:23:27 EST From: hsut@ec.purdue.edu (Tsun-Yuk Hsu) Subject: A quasi-Greg Earle anti-critic flame :-) In last week's Village Voice you will find a misinformed and uninformative review of a concert given by everyone's favorite synth- eccentrics, the Residents. Just who is this Mary Passantino who wrote the article??? It's people like her who give critics a bad name :-) :-) (Oops, that should be Rosemary, not Mary. None of us is perfect :-) In her cursory overview of the Residents' work (in that self-righteous all-knowing style typical of many critics, of course), she completely neglects what is generally considered the Residents' technical masterpiece, the concept album ESKIMO. She also mentions in passing the infamous album cover with Dick Clark's head on Hitler's body, and makes the incredible blunder of attributing it to NOT AVAILABLE, when in fact it was on the cover of THIRD REICH AND ROLL. Then Rosemary condemns the Residents' "dinosaur antics" (her exact words) after the COMMERCIAL ALBUM, citing as examples the Mole Trilogy, VILENESS FATS and RESIDUE. Of course self-respecting Residents fan knows that VILENESS FATS contains music from a video the Residents made back in the early '70s, while RESIDUE is a compilation of leftover tracks from many albums, so these two albums are hardly representative of recent trends in the Resident's work. AND of course she neglects to mention the hilarious GEORGE AND JAMES, whose freshness and zaniness would dispell any fears that the Residents are taking themselves too seriously. And I thought misinformation was only a symptom of the sickness of net.music :-) :-) Bill Hsu [][][][][][][][][][] Return-Path: Date: Mon, 17 Feb 86 17:56:05 EST From: Susanne E Trowbridge Subject: ((((((((((((($$$))))))))))))))) Well, I logged onto my account after three days away, expecting the usual loads of Love-Hounds messages, and was appalled at how few there were. Is this what we can expect with Doug Alan taking on some (gasp) respectable job? Anyway, I got a laugh out of this column in Melody Maker. But then again, maybe I'm just strange. Hee. SOUND-ALIKES 1. PRINCE AND PHIL COLLINS Well, they're both tiny and we don't like either of them and...could *you* tell the difference between "Sussudio" and "1999"? Thought not. 2. PET SHOP BOYS AND AL STEWART We wondered what had happened to Al Stewart, former bard of the bedsits (brit word for suburbs - st) and hey presto, he turns up as the Pet Shop Boys. "West End Girls" is "Year Of The Cat"...but shorter. (has anyone actually heard "West End Girls"? -st) [It's playing out here in the Bay Area. --gregbo] 3. DAVID SYLVIAN AND BRYAN FERRY Suave, sophisticated, cultured and...wallies the pair of them. The only difference is that Ferry is a better dancer. (them's fightin' words - st) 4. FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS AND AL JOLSON It's only a matter of time. The remarkably tonsilled and preposterously named Roland Gift is already halfway there with "Suspicious Minds." Next single just has to be "Mamie." 5. MARILLION AND GENESIS The old ones are still the best. Fish gets very upset if you even *think* about Genesis in the same minute as Marillion. So just for you, Fish baby...MARILLION SOUND LIKE GENESIS! 6. ROD STEWART AND BONNIE TYLER They sound similar because they had their throats sandpapered at the same voice clinic. In fact there are many theories that they are one and the same person. Have *you* ever seen them together? 7. GREEN ON RED AND NEIL YOUNG If it wasn't bad enough having the real thing plaguing us for most of last year, we also had to suffer imitations by the likes of Green On Red. Hang 'em high. 8. ROBERT SMITH AND DEPUTY DAWG Sometimes it's just impossible to tell the difference. Mad Bob squawking and Deputy Dawg yapping...one and the same if you ask us. But Deputy Dawg's slimmer. (R.S. is the Cure's lead singer by the way - st) 9. JULIAN LENNON AND JOHN LENNON If we didn't know better we'd think these two were related. -sue [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 18 Feb 86 00:17 EST From: S7YLF4%IRISHMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU Subject: Music! Hello all, (Apologies to digesters who hate reading "I'm new on the block" messages, you'll have to either sit through this one or skipped the rest of the digest...I love that feeling of power! :-) In any case -- I'm nj, and have been getting onto ARPAnet mailing lists like crazy lately. My music is, I'm afraid, a little more mundane than what seems to be floating around here. To keep it short and simple, here are (some of) my musical likes/dislikes: Likes: Bach (the original J.S., must confess I haven't really listened to P.D.Q.), Rush, Dire Straits, R.E.M., Talking Heads, a little heavy metal (very little), some Alan Parsons (just heard Stereotomy on CD), a little Peter Gabriel, some ZZ Top (depending on my mood), a l... Dislikes: Wham! (ugh!), Madonna (double ugh!), Prince & Boy George & Duran Duran and all those make-up-wearing people (I know I'm alienating quite a few people here), most heavy metal (I know I'm alienating even more), practically all country (there go the rest of them), in faquite a bit of Top 40 stuff (especially Bruce Springsteen; there goes thBe whole female popoulation).., ... In any case, I'm probably going to sit back and watch for awhile and find out how many people hate me. Until then, adieu... nj [][][][][][][][][][] -- It's like a jungle sometimes, it makes me wonder how I keep from goin' under. Greg Skinner (gregbo) {decvax!genrad, allegra, gatech, ihnp4}!mit-eddie!gds gds@eddie.mit.edu