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From: eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya)
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Subject: Re: Technology Review article (Deryfus actuall)
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Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 21:37:13 EST
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> 
> About 14 years ago Hubert Dreyfus wrote a paper titled "Why Computers Can't
> Play Chess" - immediately thereafter, someone at the MIT AI lab challenged
> Dreyfus to play one of the chess programs - which trounced him royally -
> the output of this was an MIT AI Lab Memo titled "The Artificial Intelligence
> of Hubert Dreyfus, or Why Dreyfus Can't Play Chess".
> 
> The document was hilarious. If anyone still has a copy, I'd like to arrange
> a xerox of it.
> 
> Miles Fidelman (mfidelman@bbncc5.arpa)

Excuse the fact I reproduced all that above rather than digest it.

I just attended a talk given by Dreyfus (for the first time).  I think
the AI community is FORTUNATE to have a loyal opposition following of
Dr. Dreyfus.  In some defense, Dreyfus is somewhat kind to the AI
community (in constrast to some AI critics I know) for instance he does
believe in the benefit of expert systems and expert assistants.
Dreyfus feels that the AI community harped on the above:
	Men play chess.
	Computers play chess.
	Dreyfus is a man.
	Computer beat Dreyfus.
	Therefore, computers can beat man playing chess.
He pointed out he sent his brother (supposedily captain of the Harvard
chess team at one time) and he beat the computer (we should write
his brother at UCB CS to verify this I supose).

While I do not fully agree with Dreyfus's philosophy or his
"methodology," he is a bright thinker and critic. [One point we
do not agree on: he believes in the validity of the Turing test,
I do not (in the way it currently stands).]

--eugene miya
  NASA Ames Research Center
  {hplabs,ihnp4,dual,hao,decwrl,allegra}!ames!aurora!eugene
  eugene@ames-nas.ARPA

p.s. I would not mind seeing a copy of the paper myself. :-)