Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucdcsp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uiucdcsp!bsmith From: bsmith@uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.ai Subject: Re: "self-styled philosophers" Message-ID: <3500010@uiucdcsp> Date: Sun, 2-Mar-86 21:17:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsp.3500010 Posted: Sun Mar 2 21:17:00 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Mar-86 05:06:20 EST References: <3189@umcp-cs.UUCP> Lines: 25 Nf-ID: #R:umcp-cs.UUCP:3189:uiucdcsp:3500010:000:1302 Nf-From: uiucdcsp.CS.UIUC.EDU!bsmith Mar 2 20:17:00 1986 William James once wrote that all great theories go through three distinct stages: first, everyone claims the theory is simply wrong, and not worth taking seriously. Second, people start saying that, maybe it's true, but it's trivial. And third, people are heard to say that not only is it true and important, but they thought of it first. Here at the University of Illinois, it seems to be de rigeur to laugh and deride Dreyfuss whenever his name comes up. I am convinced the majority of these people have never read any of Dreyfuss' work--however, this is unimportant to them (clearly I don't mean everyone here). There are also those who spend a great deal of time and effort rejecting everything Dreyfuss says. For example, recently Dr. Buchanan (of Stanford) gave a lecture here. He purported to be answering Dreyfuss, but in the great majority of cases agreed with him (always saying something like, "Well, maybe it's true, but who cares?"). It seems to me that, if Dreyfuss is so unimportant, it is very strange indeed that so many people get so offended by everything he says and does. Perhaps AI researchers ought to be less sensitive and start encouraging this sort of interdisciplinary activity. Perhaps then AI will move forward and finally live up to its promise. Barry Smith