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From: jon@msunix.UUCP (Jonathan Hue)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: RE:first impressions: mustang GT
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Date: Sat, 15-Feb-86 03:48:51 EST
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Posted: Sat Feb 15 03:48:51 1986
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Organization: LMSC-Mechanisms & Servos, Sunnyvale, Ca.
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Summary: net.flame lives!

> > > Keywords: rabbit shit, GTI excrement, GOLF feces
> >             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > Yes, I'm already very impressed, can't wait to hear what this guy has to
> > say......
> > 
> > > net.flame went away, but I have not. It makes me sick to see vw fanatics
> > > cluttering up the net with the diatribe on the merits of owning a VW.
> >                                  ^^^^^^^^
> > > These fanatics think that vw's are sports cars. The rabbit started out
> > > as an economy car, they put flashy interiors in it (more weight), wider
> > > tires, renamed it, a little more power, and TA-DA call it a sports car.
> > > Remember YOU are the one comparing it to a mustang GT. I dare say that on
> > > a real (road racing)track the GT would blow the rabbit off. please don't
> > > feed me shit about "what the magazine says" . Go ahead convince me that
> 
>a damn thing ON THE ROAD.Lets see that gti shit really try to beat a mustang at
>a stoplight or on a nice twisty road.It couldn't do it.In real world,the single most
>important thing in `street' competition is HORSEPOWER.How the hell do you gti
>people think you can outhandle......blah...blah...blah a high performance V8?,
>you won't have the chance because the mustang or any other HI-PO V8 will have 
>dusted your butt and you'll be to busy crying to do any driving.90% of your
>driving is done on open highway or city streets, not on a racing course.So
>all those handling specs attained on the `track' will not be used on the street
>I blow you folks away so bad,you don't even care to finish the race,and you're
>to chicken to pull up next to me again(and see me laughing my head off).
>You never even bother to find out if you can out handle me or not.
>The bottom line is don't compare your gti to cars outside it's class.

This is getting to be a lot of fun.  Pardon me for including so much
of previous articles but this stuff is great.  It makes me sick too 
when people (esp. preppies and underprivileged yuppies) try to tell
me that the GTI is the ultimate in high performance cars.  They've never
experienced a vehicle with a high power-to-weight ratio.  However, no one
on the net has said that, or said that they can blow a Mustang GT away with
their GTI.  The only thing that was done was a comparison which
pointed out the GTI is a sporty, fun to drive, good handling, tossable
car with decent acceleration.  We all know the Mustang GT has the acceleration
to peel back your eyes and handling to rearrange your internal organs.

If you feel threatened by these comparisons and want to read stoplight
challenges into them, fine.  People with GTI's know that they have small,
sporty cars with good performance.  They also know that they'd need twice
the horsepower to compete in a stoplight grand prix with a Mustang GT.
I have an '84 Scirocco and I find it more fun to drive than my friend's
'85 5-liter 5-speed Mustang GT.  We were up skiing at Tahoe after Christmas
and raced around the lake a few times.  He of course blew me away on the
straights but I made him work hard to keep up with me on the twisty stuff.

Neither I nor other VW "fanatics" who have posted to the net have delusions
of beating a Mustang GT on the street or on the track.  We do think we have
cars capable of good performance and enjoy driving them on twisty roads.
And if you want to race something, race me on my Honda VF500F Interceptor.
After one of my 3.9 second 0-60mph runs, you'll be crying so hard you
won't be able to find your keyboard to post another follow-up.


Bitchin' Camaro!		Jonathan Hue
Bitchin' Camaro!		LMSC-Mechanisms & Servos
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