Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hpfcla.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!hpfcdc!hpfcla!ajs From: ajs@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Help me fight unfair speeding ticket Message-ID: <13200035@hpfcla.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Feb-86 08:33:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcla.13200035 Posted: Wed Feb 19 08:33:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Feb-86 08:30:04 EST References: <13200031@hpfcla.UUCP> Organization: 19 Feb 86 06:33:00 MST Lines: 33 Re: I needed help with a speeding ticket To those of you who responded by mail or postings with constructive suggestions or advice: Thank you. Unfortunately, I had to either pay by mail within ten days (about 1/2 average USENERD settling time :-) or commit to an uncertain court fight. It was uncertain because I could not morally fight the clocked speed, only the reasonableness of that speed under conditions (sorry for asking about how to obviate the radar). I decided to pay up, then try to get the speed limit raised to something reasonable. The constructive suggestions were mainly to either plea-bargain or try to get off on a technicality concerning the radar, e.g. was it licensed, recently calibrated, recorded, operator trained, etc. Well, that didn't seem satisfactory; I felt (and still feel) I did not actually commit a crime commensurate with the punishment, and should simply be able to establish same to an impartial judge. But after hearing a number of horror stories, I "got real" and gave up. To those of you who saw this as a wonderful opportunity to get on your high holier-than-thou horse and moralize to the aggrandizement of your own egos: You can shove your soapboxes where the sun don't shine. If I ever want that sort of abuse, I'll still go elsewhere for it. Meditate on the letter vs. the spirit of the law, and how wise and mature it is to condemn without knowing the facts. To those of you who quoted large amounts of material before responding: Please don't do that! Nobody wants to reread all the guff. And this response will probably go out as a damned orphaned response, too. Sigh. "You just can't fight the system." Alan Silverstein