Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mtx5a.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!akguc!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!mtx5c!mtx5d!mtx5a!mat From: mat@mtx5a.UUCP (m.terribile) Newsgroups: net.audio,net.auto Subject: Re: Phase distortion on music Message-ID: <1211@mtx5a.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Feb-86 00:00:26 EST Article-I.D.: mtx5a.1211 Posted: Mon Feb 24 00:00:26 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 00:42:23 EST References: <1582@emory.UUCP> <523@eneevax.UUCP> <445@unccvax.unccvax.UUCP> <281@twitch.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 28 Xref: watmath net.audio:7731 net.auto:9530 > > 1 (hack, cough, wheeze) speakers. It wasn't that bad at low volume. > > However, most car stereo amplifiers have gross phase distortion (pull out > > your Ford factory radio and run a proof on it) as well as a frequency > > The human ear is insensitive to phase and will not be affected by phase > distortion, provided the amplitude vs frequency characteristic is not altered. This is conventional wisdom. And it's true -- phase distortions are irrelevant to the intelligibility of speech, and to music so long as other distortions predominate. But in much of today's really good equipment, other distortions do not always predominate. Tests a while ago (someone know the actual reference) indicated that phase distortions CAN cause subtle but audible changes in timbre when they occur between about 100 and 2000 Hz, with the most sensitive region being about 600 to 1200, if I recall. You also mention the RIAA equialization doing violence to relative phase. Well, perhaps this is what the vinyl-over-CD freaks are so used to? (or why Carver was able to measure funny differences between vinyl and CD?) -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat (Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a! mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.