Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site bcsaic.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!fluke!ssc-vax!bcsaic!ted From: ted@bcsaic.UUCP (ted jardine) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Simulated IFR question Message-ID: <455@bcsaic.UUCP> Date: Sun, 16-Feb-86 21:12:48 EST Article-I.D.: bcsaic.455 Posted: Sun Feb 16 21:12:48 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Feb-86 04:43:22 EST References: <23@vaxine.UUCP> Reply-To: ted@bcsaic.UUCP (ted jardine) Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle Lines: 24 In article <23@vaxine.UUCP> mm@vaxine.UUCP (Mark Mudgett) writes: >Another question for you CFI's (or FAR experts): > >I am a student pilot, endorsed for solo cross-country, >(not really true YET, but for the sake of this question ...) >geo has a commercial certificate with an instrument rating. > >Is it legal for him to fly as PIC under the hood in VFR conditions, >with me sitting in the right-hand seat looking out for him? The answer is unquestionably no. The reference is FAR 91.21(b)(1). The reference states "appropriately rated pilot" which the FAA Legal folks have interpreted to mean at least a Private Pilot. One interesting variation on this question is that the safety pilot does not need a current medical certificate as long as the pilot operating under simulated IFR is qualified to act as PIC. If the pilot operating under simulated IFR is not qualified to act as PIC then the safety pilot had better be a CFI. There are miriad variations that depend on equipment and so forth, but this is the essence of the safety pilot requirement. TJ {With Amazing Grace} The Piper (aka Ted Jardine) CFI-ASME/I Boeing Artificial Intelligence Center ...uw-beaver!uw-june!bcsaic!ted