Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!nsc!voder!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.college Subject: Re: Brother Jed Message-ID: <525@kontron.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Feb-86 13:21:00 EST Article-I.D.: kontron.525 Posted: Thu Feb 20 13:21:00 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Feb-86 06:17:46 EST References: <1406@sdcsvax.UUCP> <252@mit-vax.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 31 > In article <1406@sdcsvax.UUCP> cs195@sdcsvax.UUCP (EECS 195) writes: > > A harmless evangelist... > > Harmless like Jimmy Swaggart or Jerry Fallwell? I don't see how anybody > (in light of recent political trends) can use the word "evangelist" in > the same sentence as a complaint of first amendment rights (such as > *separation of church and state*) being taken away. > > -- > From the land of Chaldea. > -Charles What a person says doesn't hurt anyone. If someone attempts to impose their will on someone else, that's another matter. It sounds to me like you aren't too wild about that other First Amendment right -- free speech. Also, "separation of church and state" isn't part of the Constitution, and a good argument good be made that wasn't *quite* the intent of the Founding Fathers. The First Amendment says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". That means, no law recognizing, supporting, hostile to, or having any involvement with an establishment of religion. A lot of people yell "separation of church and state" as the basis for passing laws that attempt to control or restrict religious beliefs. A little more reading of the Constitution and the Constitutional Convention debates is in order, and a little less blather. --------------------- "Television evangelism is to evangelism, as television journalism is to journalism."