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From: tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch)
Newsgroups: net.college,net.politics
Subject: Re: CIA and terrorism
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Date: Mon, 24-Feb-86 15:11:59 EST
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In article <1969@jhunix.UUCP> ins_akaa@jhunix.ARPA (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>>I think it is quite firmly established that the CIA supports terrorism.
>
>So what?  It's still a legitimate political position to not think so.  The
>people who take that position may be wrong, but that has no effect on my
>argument.

I fail to see what "legitimate" means here.  In the world of 1984, it's
legitimate to think that Big Brother believes in peace.  Whether the
CIA does or does not support terrorism is an ascertainable fact, not
a matter for democratic vote.  If the Libyan population voted that
Khadafi was not involved in terrorism, how would that change anything?

>If a vote was taken among a representative section of the student body, asking
>if the students believed both 1) that the CIA supports terrorism and 2) that
>that groups supporting terrorism, including the CIA, should be
>barred from campus, I could accept that.  But from
>what has been said on the net, that seems not to be the case.  Rather, the
>question is worded in such a way as not to mention the CIA, and people 
>who don't believe the CIA supports terrorism would answer "yes" to the
>question, said "yes" votes then being used to claim that students want the CIA
>off campus, when in fact those particular "yes" votes mean nothing of the sort.
To add the CIA as a specific example adds nothing to such a resolution.

It doesn't sound to me like "yes" votes are being used to claim that
students want the CIA off campus.  It does sound to me like "yes" votes
are being used to claim that terrorists should not recruit on campus.

The point of resolutions like these are to get people to vote on general
principles.  Once that's done, the work is to see those principles carried
out.
>
>Kenneth Arromdee
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Tony Wuersch
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