Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site uiucdcs Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!kaufman From: kaufman@uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU Newsgroups: net.college Subject: Re: RA's and drug use Message-ID: <32400008@uiucdcs> Date: Wed, 5-Mar-86 16:32:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.32400008 Posted: Wed Mar 5 16:32:00 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Mar-86 07:16:29 EST References: <1353@wucec2.UUCP> Lines: 42 Nf-ID: #R:wucec2.UUCP:1353:uiucdcs:32400008:000:2078 Nf-From: uiucdcs.CS.UIUC.EDU!kaufman Mar 5 15:32:00 1986 I did my undergrad study at Wesleyan University in Middletown Connecticut, where they had a refreshingly healthy attitude on such matters. Most simply, their attitude was, you're college students; we think you can take care of yourself. Do whatever you want; it's your business. There was a line drawn, but usually someone had to be dumb enough to try selling drugs to townies to cross it. There was absolutely no problem with beer. Several campus facilities would offer it, and the dining hall would occasionally have a champagne brunch. Campus-sponsored parties would have kegs available. (I don't know what's happened since they jacked the drinking age up). A group even arose called WESober, whose purpose was to make sure that these parties also had NON-alcoholic drinks available. There was one single-sex dorm (male). Others were coed by floor, by hall, or by room. And there was nobody there to kick anyone out. If you wanted guests of any sex at any hour, that was your business. Freshman halls had RAs, but their purpose was to get people out of trouble - not into it. At the University of Illinois, on the other hand, I think what best sums up the place is its main gymnasium building which closely resembles a prison. I'm not kidding - bars on the windows, big metal gates with someone there to guard the flow. God forbid someone who forgot their id should try to enter! The situation in the dorms is not much better. There is one place where NOTHING with a Y chromosome is allowed in. (sorry, daddy, you can't see my room.) The people in charge of monitoring things take their roles seriously and often fanatically. They censor the walls, and if you get caught with a beer outside your room (or in it in the case of undergrad dorms) ... I am glad I moved out of the dorm system, though I still have to deal with neo-fascist elements at certain campus events. I've sometimes doubted that U of I administrators ever think of students here as human beings. Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman) "The universe is permeated with the odor of turpentine."