Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site omen.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!amd!pesnta!pyramid!hplabs!tektronix!reed!omen!caf From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Newsgroups: net.columbia Subject: Re: An Everyday Lesson Message-ID: <304@omen.UUCP> Date: Sun, 2-Mar-86 18:13:09 EST Article-I.D.: omen.304 Posted: Sun Mar 2 18:13:09 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Mar-86 04:30:51 EST References: <260@pyuxh.UUCP> Reply-To: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX) Organization: Omen Technology, Portland Lines: 22 In article <260@pyuxh.UUCP> sdd@pyuxh.UUCP (S Daniels) writes: > >My rhetorical question: How often have we seen the correct technical or >operational decision overturned by "higher management" because of the politics >of the situation? Fortunately, most of us don't work in places where the cost >of doing that is measured in lives, billions of dollars, and national prestige. > Some years ago a DC-8 ran out of fuel and crashed somewhat short of the runway, killing about a dozen. The transcript showd the flight engineer reminding the captain about the fuel situation, but the captain (preoccupied with a landing gear problem) paid insufficient attention to those warnings. As a result of that crash, the airline instituted a program of assertivness training for the cockpit crew. According to scuttlebutt I have heard, there is a feeling among some NASA trrops that the higher-ups that "forced" the launch should be prosecuted for involuntary manslaughter. I have also heard concerns that had Challenger blown up on or near the launch pad, many spectators would have been killed or wounded by the blast. Question: what degree of danger are the launch visitors in?