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From: bzs@bu-cs.UUCP (Barry Shein)
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Subject: Re: Restaurants Using Non-Dairy Creamers
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Date: Mon, 17-Feb-86 11:52:34 EST
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>Anyone have calorie figures
>for the 4 cases: cream, milk, fake liquid, fake powder?

This is from "Calories and Carbohydrates" by Barbara Kraus, it's
hard to verify it's accuracy but I have found it very useful because
it lists many, many name brands including things like McDonald's
Big Macs (563 calories), frozen foods, drinks etc as well as generic
foods:

Cream:

1/2 and 1/2		1 fl oz		40
light			1T (.5 oz)	32

Milk:

Whole			1 fl oz		18.7 (actually, 150/8oz)
Skim			1 fl oz		11.2 (90/8)
Human (no kidding!)	1 fl oz		22

Cream Substitute:

(USDA)

 liquid			1T (.5 oz)	20
 powder			1t (2g)		10

Carnation Coffee-mate	1t (2g)		11
Coffee-Rich frozen liq	1.5t (3g)	16
Pet non-dairy		1t (2g)		10

Basically, as far as weight reduction diets go, it seems insignificant
unless you drink huge amounts of coffee (about 5-10 cal/cup assuming
those quantities are representative of per-cup usage which I think
they are meant to be.) In my opinion only the most stringent dieting
could even benefit from removing the milk (and even the sugar, calorie
considerations only here, about 15-20 calories) from their coffee, 3
cups a day would save maybe 100 calories at most. But somehow we have
associated black coffee with dieting and hence non-black coffee as
fattening (I suspect the old 'if it tastes good it must be fattening'
theory.) Even the most superficial review of actual calorie counts
reveal (I'm on my soapbox again) that eliminating all red-meat (or
even all meat, tho red-meat is the main culprit) from a diet
immediately makes it hard to get lotsa calories, even lean, broiled
beef can be several hundred calories per serving.

None of this applies to glassfuls of milk which can be rough on a
diet, just the small amount most people put in their coffee (I doubt
many were considering drinking glassfuls of coffee-mate anyhow.)

	-Barry Shein, Boston University