Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie.berkeley.edu!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Enigma and the Eastern Front Message-ID: <12202@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Thu, 6-Mar-86 04:03:14 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.12202 Posted: Thu Mar 6 04:03:14 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Mar-86 07:38:19 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 52 Keywords: references Summary: references From time to time I am posting references which appear to support my thesis that information lost by Germany through insecure cryptosystems played a vital (perhaps decisive) role in the campaign on the Eastern Front. For the Nth time (I am getting tired of explaining this) I do not endorse any particular reference, or claim that any single reference proves anything. Read the old postings before you flame at me for using poor references, OK? Anyway, I am rereading "The ULTRA Secret" currently. By the way, someone mentioned the role cryptography played in Rommel's campaigns. This is a fascinating area, and fairly well documented. There is a book waiting to be written examining this question, if anyone is ambitious. From "The ULTRA Secret", by F.K. Winterbotham (Dell paperback printed 1982) Page 187: (Refering to ULTRA intercepts) "On the Eastern Front the situation reports by the German commanders showed the relentless Russian pressure now pushing the German armies back." [someone had argued that ULTRA was not used to obtain intercepts related to the eastern front] Page 197: " ... two further armoured divisions, the 9th and the 10th, were on their way from the Russian front to Caen." [also, it must be admitted that some German forces were diverted from the Eastern Front by the attacks of England & the USA. Some had argued that the Soviets defeated the Germans almost single handedly.] "The fact that Hitler was bringing armour from the hard-pressed Eastern Front to Normandy meant he was now determined to stop us ..." Page 207: (refering to von Kluge) "His record ... in Russia had been good" Page 210: "Signals came in showing that the two SS Panzer Divisions the 11th and 12th, which had come from Poland ... were now ordered to be kept at Caen."