Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!uwvax!caip!im4u!milano!wex From: wex@milano.UUCP Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Value of Computer Science degree Message-ID: <1046@milano.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 12:27:20 EST Article-I.D.: milano.1046 Posted: Thu Feb 27 12:27:20 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Mar-86 17:13:29 EST References: <1404@ames.UUCP> <3367@umcp-cs.UUCP> Sender: wex@milano.UUCP Organization: MCC, Austin, TX Lines: 26 Summary: is anyone producing hackers these days? In article <3367@umcp-cs.UUCP>, mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) writes: > It seems to me that what you want is someone with the spark and flare of a > "hacker", but who has computer science education, and who can work in a > coordinated fashion with others. Are Universities producing hackers these days? When I was at UPenn, I was disappointed to see how the hacker community was shrinking. In the classes before mine ('84), there were 10-12 hackers in each class. In my year there were about 7, the year after maybe 5, and I didn't see any after that. At the same time, the number of CSE majors was increasing, the number of people taking CS courses was skyrocketing, the quality of the staff, faculty and facilities were all increasing... I wonder if there are any new hackers being produced these days. Has something happened in the colleges or in society to cause this drop? Certainly the rewards are still there (and are even greater in most cases). But where are the hackers? Note, there are still many good programmers, theoreticians, etc. coming out, but that spark that Charlie mentioned seems to be gone. -- Alan Wexelblat ARPA: WEX@MCC.ARPA UUCP: {ihnp4, seismo, harvard, gatech, pyramid}!ut-sally!im4u!milano!wex "No wife, no horse, no mustache."