Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!glacier!kestrel!ladkin From: ladkin@kestrel.ARPA (Peter Ladkin) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Computer Billing Message-ID: <5245@kestrel.ARPA> Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 22:26:57 EST Article-I.D.: kestrel.5245 Posted: Thu Feb 27 22:26:57 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Mar-86 17:57:43 EST References: <393@ur-tut.UUCP> Organization: Kestrel Institute, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 24 In article <393@ur-tut.UUCP>, scco@ur-tut.UUCP (Sean Colbath) writes: > I'm interested in hearing what attitudes various people have to 'billed > computing' in an academic situation. Excellent choice of topic. I worked in UCB Computer Center, which has a *strict billing* policy. The Computer Science Department didn't, as I recall. My dispositions favor no-billing, for the reasons you mention, and still do. However, I found myself playing the billing bureaucrat too easily, for the reason that I could not see any workable alternative to strict billing in a scarce-resource environment. We also billed for connect-time and CPU-time separately on Unix-PDPs and Vaxs, in order to discourage backgrounding as a means of avoiding resource limitations. Needless to say, we had the games turned off, so people just brought their own. Some institutions require PCs of their students, as a way of avoiding most of the resource problem. And the strict billing is required in an environment where the computers are used on government-supported research of certain kinds (e.g. DARPA). So the PC way may be the only possibility. Peter Ladkin