Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuts.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!whuts!6243tes From: 6243tes@whuts.UUCP (STERKEL) Newsgroups: net.database,net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Re: Re: Knowledgeman/2 database product Message-ID: <565@whuts.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Mar-86 07:39:04 EST Article-I.D.: whuts.565 Posted: Tue Mar 4 07:39:04 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 5-Mar-86 05:57:32 EST References: <1311@hcrvx1.UUCP> <564@whuts.UUCP> <4344@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 35 Xref: watmath net.database:234 net.micro.pc:7283 > In article <564@whuts.UUCP> 6243tes@whuts.UUCP (STERKEL) writes: > >[For those who graduate from relational to "real databases", ... > > Please explain what you mean by this, before I light my flametorch. > -- > UUCP: {gatech,harvard,ihnp4,pyramid,seismo}!ut-sally!ark actually the answer is quite simple: in my occasional delving into the application of data base managers to real world problems, I find approximately 70% of the problems to be not "list" or "flat-file" oriented. These applications are in reality the need to intelligently and efficiently map "one-to-many", "many-to-one", and "many-to-many" situations, and linkages. I am then faced with the prospect of using a very powerful embedded language within a better relational dbms (K-Man 1.07/2 is the best example) to do *alot* of custom programming to force the linkages within the relational context or move up-scale to a "brute" "networking" dbms such as MDBS III. To provide one example, networking dbms's such as MDBS III will readily provide for the realities of genealogical research such as sibling relationships, marriage, multiple/serial marriages, polygamy, etc. without custom programing to sift through the data to "find" and "catagorize" same. (Incidentally, geneologies rarely match the ideal of the "family tree" forms sold by stationary stores. Thus, Heir- archal dbms's are rarely useful.) I am ill equiped to discuss the theoretical bases of data bases. Please get to a good technical (not computer hacker) library for a better explanation than I have provided.