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Subject: Super Hero Role Playing Games
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Date: Tue, 25-Feb-86 15:40:25 EST
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Reply-To: cs111olg@ucla-cs.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev (the student incarnation))
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In article <2560@genat.UUCP> phoenix@genat.UUCP () writes:
>>One onther game to consider: Champions.
>>
>>Another SHRPG (SuperHero Role Playing Game) is: Villians and Vigilantees
>There is also "Champions"'s sister game, called something like "Golden 
>Age of Champions", which deals with the less ultra-high-powered heroes
>of the '40's.  I am uncertain whether Hero Games has released it yet,

YES. I almost bought it at L.A.'s Orccon'86 week-two ago.

>but my fiance played-tested it at a north-eastern US sf-con a while ago.
>The illustrations are by the fan-artist, Chris Cloutier.

Champions and Golden Age of Champions are compatible with Justice, Inc.
and Danger International (a 30's cops and robbers and James Bond-type
games respectively). Hero Games claims ALL their games are compatible
includins Fantasy Hero. Anybody tried to mix fantasy with SF and SH? 
Any comments?

And let's hear it for V&V!!! A game where NOBODY EVER dies and you move
your ENTIRE movement allowance at once (everyone is where they want to be
in the combat. EVERY ATTACK is from behind!:-). A game where the mix of
powers makes NO logical sense (a spell-using flying amoeba character,
a character with ice AND flame powers, other silly randomness). A game
where one can legally roll up a monstrously powerfull character and a 
mostrously wimpy one (how does a ~1000 hp, ~5000 power, ~400-500 armour,
super-flight, power-blast and 20 points of invulnerability sound?That's
what you get if you happen to get more than one animal/plant powers whicich
add another 5-6 powers to the existant ones...). We had discarded a few 
characters like that in the name of game balance as we have discarded the 
characters who were even frailer than "normals"... 

Actually, V&V (just like ANY OTHER GAME) can be fun when you have a 
GOOD Game Master run a WELL THOUGHT OUT scenario for a group of 
CO-OPERATIVE and CO-OPERATING GOOD players. Role Playing depends on
players, NOT on the Game System. It's nice when the System does not get 
in the way of a long-term campaign game, but it's up to the Game Master
and the players to BALANCE the game's pluses and minuses.

(In fact I had an EXELLENT game of V&V at Orccon'86. Two and a half 
hours of investigation and role-playing and 1/2 hour of combat at the 
end. Was worth almost 1.5 levels of experience to my 4th level character,
mostly because there were only 6 of us where 10 were needed and we got
lucky... :@)
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