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From: cbk@se-sd.UUCP (cbk)
Newsgroups: net.lang.c
Subject: Re: Command line arguments, redirection, etc.
Message-ID: <36@se-sd.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 19-Feb-86 18:08:50 EST
Article-I.D.: se-sd.36
Posted: Wed Feb 19 18:08:50 1986
Date-Received: Fri, 21-Feb-86 05:38:26 EST
Reply-To: cbk@se-sd.UUCP (Carl Kuck)
Followup-To: net.lang.c
Organization: NCR Corporation, SE - San Diego
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Keywords: redirection  arguments

[ Inscribed on the line, in very tiny letters, were the words: EAT ME ]

   Hopefully, this "discussion" about argument passing, redirection, and
such can be put to rest once and for all.  Here's my two cents worth, 
having just completed porting the PCC C compiler to a proprietary,
decidedly non-UNIX (tm) operating system.

1. Redirection of standard I/O is a part of C, piping is not.
   Ref: K&R, chapter 7

   "Finally, the routines are meant to be 'portable', in the sense that
    they will exist *in compatible form* on any system where C exists"...

   The routines mentioned are those which use "standard I/O".  See page
   144... "output can be redirected to a file by using >...", and "On
   the UNIX system, a pipe can also be used..."  This implies that
   redirection is required functionality, whereas piping is a part of
   a particular operating system.

2. Command-line arguments are a part of C.
   Ref: K&R, chapter 5.11

   "In environments that support C, there is a way to pass command-line
    arguments or parameters to a program when it begins executing."

It sounds to me like this whole issue boils down to whether or not someone
has taken the time to *correctly* implement C to provide the functionality
as specified in K&R (or whatever else happens to be your favorite standard).

[ Personal opinion, FLAME ON ]

Any implementation of C that doesn't provide redirection and command-line
argument passing is half-assed at best.

[ FLAME OFF]

You know, I feel better already!  Hey kiddies, get out YOUR copy of K&R and
read, read, read!   

-- Carl Kuck  (apply all standard disclaimers to the preceeding babble)
  
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