Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site erc3ba.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!mhuxv!mhuxh!mhuxi!erc3ba!jamr
From: jamr@erc3ba.UUCP (Roach)
Newsgroups: net.lang.st80
Subject: Smalltalk Machines
Message-ID: <179@erc3ba.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 17-Feb-86 13:27:48 EST
Article-I.D.: erc3ba.179
Posted: Mon Feb 17 13:27:48 1986
Date-Received: Tue, 18-Feb-86 06:43:58 EST
Distribution: net
Organization: AT&T Engineering Research Center   Princeton, NJ
Lines: 28

I am trying to compile a list of dedicated Smalltalk environments which
are available to users.  By 'dedicated' I mean the equivalent of what
one expects when they acquire a Xerox or Symbolics lisp machine.  The
ones that I am aware of are:

1) A dolphin or dorado from Xerox running Smalltalk-80 v2

2) a tektronix 4400 family machine

3) a sun running BS II

4) a Mac/Mac XL/Mac+ running Smalltalk-80 v1

5) Possibly Methods from Digitial Research (?)

6) Some new IBM AT product coming out. (?)

I would appreciate any additions to my list if anyone knows of others.
Also, does anyone have the experience of having developed a medium to
large application in both Smalltalk and a lisp based system on any
available lisp machine with some kind of message passing support?  What
I am looking for are comparsions between the two that would show why
one would choose one over the other.  I have lots of experience on the
lisp side, but none on the Smalltalk one.

Thanks for your help

john malleo-roach