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From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL)
Newsgroups: net.legal
Subject: Re: Are PIRG Fees Legal?
Message-ID: <775@ucsfcgl.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 18-Feb-86 19:44:08 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb 18 19:44:08 1986
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In article <2900007@orstcs.UUCP> boyd@orstcs.UUCP (boyd) writes:
>>Are you sure the fees are mandatory, and not simply automatic unless the
>>student actively elects not to pay? At various times over the last 10 years,
>
>Yes, here they are fully mandatory. No refund system. No negative check-off.
>No recourse.

Isn't it wonderful that a group which claims to be working in the
public interest is operating in an unethical manner to raise its
funds?  I always found this to be amusing, except that the people
operating in my interest are so serious about it all that you'd think
they saw the problem.  (At UC Berkeley they would add the fee to your
other fees, but you could decline to pay it by signing a form and
turning it in.) However, in my discussion with CALPIRG at Berkeley,
they always considered it justified because they got more money that
way.  Weird.

I generally agree with their views, by the way.  I think that their
fundraising techniques are unethical.  Which is why I always declined
to pay their fee.

		Ken Arnold