Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mmm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!mmm!mrgofor From: mrgofor@mmm.UUCP (MKR) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: Drugs in America Message-ID: <550@mmm.UUCP> Date: Sun, 23-Feb-86 12:10:47 EST Article-I.D.: mmm.550 Posted: Sun Feb 23 12:10:47 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 06:28:18 EST References: <2607@sdcrdcf.UUCP> <413@packard.UUCP> <1137@ihlpa.UUCP> Reply-To: mrgofor@mmm.UUCP (MKR) Organization: none Lines: 53 Summary: In article <1137@ihlpa.UUCP> strickln@ihlpa.UUCP (Stricklen) writes: >> I personally believe that drugs should be legalized (after all >> what right do I have to tell someone else how to lead their lives?) > >I disagree somewhat with your assertion. If continual usage of a >particular drug renders a person less capable or incapable of supporting >herself or himself, various welfare systems, either federal or state, >are likely to be called upon to take up the slack. This is an unfair >burden on the tax-paying populous, and their legislators should have the >right to limit use of that drug. > >Steve Stricklen >AT&T Bell Laboratories >ihnp4!ihlpa!strickln Okay, fine. Then I guess what you're saying is that if the use of a given drug does NOT render a person less capable, then it should not be illegal. Now the question becomes: which drugs incapacitate users? The burden of proof should be on the people making the assertion that they do indeed cause a problem. So now let's hear some scientific evidence to support the claim that these drugs cause "incapacitation of the ability to support one's self." And, of course, it's no fair citing the price of the drugs, because the price is set be virtue of the fact that the drugs are illegale - actual production costs are extremely low. 1) Marijuana and its derivatives (hashish, hash oils, etc) 2) Cocaine 3) Opium 4) Heroin 5) Tobacco 6) Alcohol 7) Tylenol :-) 8) LSD 9) Peyote 10) Speed 11) Barbiturates 12) Caffeine It is my opinion that there are indeed some drugs that can be shown to possess the detriments you mention, but that set of drugs is not equal to the set of currently illegal drugs. On top of that, you have the question of: is it USE or ABUSE that causes incapacitation. If only ABUSE, why punish the USERS who use the drug responsibly? ANY substance can be abused to the extent that it causes incapacitation, although some lend themselves to abuse more easily. I guess I would like to see some SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE supporting the illegality of certain drugs, rather than the typically hysterical ravings we see now. -- --MKR When you ain't got nothin' you got nothin' to lose. - Dylan