Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!noao!terak!doug From: doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Depression and (oh, no!) vitamins Message-ID: <1049@terak.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Feb-86 19:21:05 EST Article-I.D.: terak.1049 Posted: Thu Feb 20 19:21:05 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Feb-86 04:57:58 EST Distribution: net Organization: Calcomp Display Products Division, Scottsdale, AZ, USA Lines: 46 [I have no desire to rekindle the vitamin debate, but...] I'm looking for some plausible explanation for a personal experience. The situation has happened twice, and I'm fairly confident that there is a cause and effect. But I don't understand the mechanism. Summary: A depressed mood which has lasted for weeks is "cured" in less than two hours after taking a "stress formula" vitamin supplement. Boring details: On two occasions (a couple of years apart), I have been depressed for weeks at a time. This is very uncharacteristic of me; seldom do I carry one day's emotions forward into the next day. In both cases I was in a situation which was depressing but not at all hopeless. It shouldn't really have caused the kind of relentless depression that I was experiencing. The first time, the depression had lasted for nearly 3 months when it occurred to me that the depressing situation could also be labelled as "stressful". Since I'm not a health nut and I "don't always eat right" as the TV commercials say, I figured it wouldn't be a bad idea to start taking a vitamin supplement on general principles. Within a couple of hours after I took the first tablet, my mood had improved remarkably. I continued using the supplement until the depressing/stressful situation abated. The second time, it only took one month of depression before I recognized the similarity (hey, when you're depressed you don't always think straight :-). About an hour and a half after taking the first tablet, the cloud had lifted. The change was so quick and so dramatic that I find it hard to believe it could be the vitamins. But I don't have any other theory. Okay, folks, I'm asking for help understanding what's going on. Is it one of the vitamins in the supplement (basically B complex, C and folic acid, and E), or is it probably placebo effect, or something else? And more important, should I be doing anything more than continuing to take the supplements? Possible red herring: my father was an alcoholic ("was" on account of it finally killed him). I don't drink, never have. One person I know suggested that this might be a clue. Extra Credit: what am I excreting that causes my urine to become a fluorescent green-yellow color when I'm using those supplements? -- Doug Pardee -- CalComp -- {hardy,savax,seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!terak!doug