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From: katrina@ihuxf.UUCP (Woodward)
Newsgroups: net.micro.att
Subject: Re: UNIX PC 7300: Invoking user agent with a command
Message-ID: <2837@ihuxf.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 1-Mar-86 16:50:29 EST
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Posted: Sat Mar  1 16:50:29 1986
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> There is a way to come up in the user agent and then invoke a full
> scree (i.e. borderless) UNIX shell.  This lets you have the best of
> both worlds - you do most of your work in a shell (including editing
> full screen with vi, emacs etc.) but if something gets hung, or if
> you need something from the Office, it's there at a touch of your
> <suspend> <resume>.
> 
> All you have to do is add another option in your office menu (found
> in /usr/lib/ua/Office). Copy the entry for Unix, call it another name
> and change the invocation option from -w to -d.
> 
> Voila!!
> 
The problem with invoking a Dimensionless window (the -d option) is that
now when you hit <suspend> or the boxed "W" in the corner, is that windows
started this way show up as "Unknown Contents"!  That's not a big deal if
you've only got the "Office" and one other window, but how do you pick
out the "right" "Unknown Contents" when you have several to chose from? 

Personally, I like the "one" program that someone submitted a while
back.  It starts in a Dimensioned window, so the window manager `knows'
the contents, but then expands the window to dimensionless.  I've timed it
repeatedly (stop watch) for invoking the shell this way and the loss is
typically a second (or less).

	Katrina Woodward
	ihnp4!ihuxf!katrina