Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles - hp 1.2 08/01/83; site hp-pcd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!pyramid!hplabs!hp-pcd!bill From: bill@hp-pcd.UUCP (bill) Newsgroups: net.micro.pc Subject: Re: emacs for ms/pc-dos machines? Message-ID: <15200014@hpcvlo.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 13:34:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpcvlo.15200014 Posted: Thu Feb 27 13:34:00 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Mar-86 19:05:57 EST References: <561@whuts.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Corvallis, OR Lines: 36 Nf-ID: #R:whuts:-56100:hpcvlo:15200014:000:1746 Nf-From: hpcvlo!bill Feb 27 10:34:00 1986 There are several Emacen (pl?) around for the PC. Most of them, however, are rather home-brew, including the one I use most of the time. I do know of one, however, that's both comprehensive and commercially available. It's Unipress Emacs, from Unipress Software, Inc., Suite 312, 2025 Lincoln Highway, Edison, NJ 08817, (201) 985-8000. On 8/20/85, the price was $325 for binary, $995 for source, and supposedly they had versions available for PC, AT, Rainbow 100, TI-PC, HP150, and "generic MS-DOS". Unipress also claimed to have at PC-AT/Xenix version forthcoming, and a wide range of Unix and VMS versions also available. On the positive side - Unipress Emacs is essentially a MS-DOS adaptation of Gosling's Emacs. It's totally user-extensible; you can write your own library routines in MLisp. In fact, it's probably capable of doing almost any function that full-blown Gosling's Unix Emacs will do, given the constraint that it's now running on a single-user, single-tasking system. On the negative side - Like Gosling's Emacs, I consider this one to be somewhat of a dinosaur. It takes a hefty amount of memory (the program itself is around 250K), and even loading it from a hard disk on a PC-AT and then waiting for it to initialize can take ten or fifteen seconds. The really powerful functions are all in the form of ".ml" files, so you have this fairly massive directory somewhere (say a megabyte or two?) that contains all these functions. Also, I use a color graphics card with an RGB monitor; I haven't found a way to get it to run in color (though I haven't tried real hard), and it apparently doesn't wait for retrace to paint the screen (I get annoying "snow" whenever it displays anything). bill frolik hp-pcd!bill