Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site spdcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!spdcc!dyer From: dyer@spdcc.UUCP (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Children Message-ID: <24@spdcc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 1-Mar-86 02:23:31 EST Article-I.D.: spdcc.24 Posted: Sat Mar 1 02:23:31 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Mar-86 23:21:07 EST References: <1190@decwrl.DEC.COM> <166@ubc-cs.UUCP> <531@cisden.UUCP> Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA Lines: 37 Summary: let's not fall into the typical religion argument again In article <531@cisden.UUCP>, john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) writes: > First, pardon me for posting where (possibly) most of you aren't much > interested in what I have to say. It's interesting to note that Fr. Woolley's access to net.religion.christian was shut off upstream at a backbone site because it no longer wanted to pay for the transfer of "frivolous" newsgroups, yet, apparently, net.motss is still being passed. Someone upstream has a "queer" sense of what's frivolous and what's not! Father, I recognize your paragraph about orthodox Christianity and not hating those whom you disagree with as being the obligatory disclaimer that every member of the orthodox Christian ministry has to declaim before facing a crowd of gay people. It functions as a kind of "hex", preventing the Religious from defilement-by-association, while trying to communicate some degree of levelheadedness to those gay people who haven't tuned out during the first sentence. I am afraid that even such comments as these might start another really rather useless discussion here, since at that level there isn't much more to be said other than to agree to disagree, and you KNOW that that has never stopped the great majority of USENET posters from entering the fray. We have gone through several lengthy waves of this, and I might be a bit gun-shy, but understand that I'm trying to avoid another anytime soon. On the other hand, should you care to, I would welcome your comments on pastoral issues which directly affect some gay people, such as the role of groups like Dignity, a Catholic group for lesbians and gay men, the nether-status that such groups have within dioceses, the role of the Church in fighting for or against equal opportunity statutes, and the disarray the Church finds itself when the Archbishop of NYC argues against such a bill, while the bishops of the dioceses of Brooklyn, Milwaukee, and many others support it. -- Steve Dyer dyer@harvard.HARVARD.EDU {bbncca,bbnccv,harvard}!spdcc!dyer