Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site spdcc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!spdcc!dyer From: dyer@spdcc.UUCP (Steve Dyer) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Gays and stereotypes. (A relativly young perspective) Message-ID: <23@spdcc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 1-Mar-86 00:58:24 EST Article-I.D.: spdcc.23 Posted: Sat Mar 1 00:58:24 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Mar-86 07:38:08 EST References: <83@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> <3234@sun.uucp> <86@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> <745@harvard.UUCP> Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA Lines: 32 Keywords: diversity, acceptance In article <745@harvard.UUCP>, baron@harvard.UUCP (Jeff Baron) writes: > In article <25757@apple.UUCP> richard@apple.UUCP (richard johnson) writes: > > >when the BP (Breeding Public...thanks Owen) ... > I don't know about everyone else, but I find the term "breeding public" in > exceptionally bad taste. Actually, until last summer, I used the term here > and there. Then one day, a friend got very upset when the term came up. > And you know what? She was right. Until gays learn to stop assaulting > straight people on such grounds as those, straights will continue to > be antagonistic. After all, they are not responsible for the fact that > gays cannot have children per se, just as gays are not responsible for > everything else that is wrong with the world. I don't know about everyone else, but I find the outrage shown by certain members of strait society when they're called "breeders" a real hoot. As far as I'm concerned, it's fine to let straits experience what it's like to have the shoe on the other foot, and "breeder" is probably one of the least offensive labels I can imagine. Listen, Jeff, straits who are antagonistic to gay people will be so regardless of what they're called; my experience has been the those who are REALLY offended are usually those more-liberal-than-thou-how-can-you-call-us-that-after-all-I'm-very-tolerant- of-people-like-you types. Ach, to be viewed only in terms of biology and sex! The horror, the horror... Screw 'em if they can't take a joke. Anyway, where's the insult? It's hardly like anyone is being accused falsely of something derogatory. FInally, let's not forget that many lesbians and gay men are themselves "breeders." Identifying oneself as gay says NOTHING about one's capacity to bear or father children. -- Steve Dyer dyer@harvard.HARVARD.EDU {bbncca,bbnccv,harvard}!spdcc!dyer