Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!nbires!boulder!cisden!john From: john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Children Message-ID: <531@cisden.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 17:46:05 EST Article-I.D.: cisden.531 Posted: Thu Feb 27 17:46:05 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Mar-86 07:38:54 EST References: <1190@decwrl.DEC.COM> <166@ubc-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: john@cisden.UUCP (John Woolley) Organization: ConTel Information Systems, Denver Lines: 33 Summary: a slight correction First, pardon me for posting where (possibly) most of you aren't much interested in what I have to say. Second, please believe me when I say that it's entirely possible to think people are wrong about important things (as any orthodox Christian thinks most of you are wrong about sexuality) without hating or despising or looking down on those people. I'm pretty disgusted by a lot of my own actions -- there's no way I could hate somebody else for his actions without being wildly inconsistent (and unChristian). But of course that doesn't mean I have to approve of your lifestyle, just that I have to be loving and considerate. Third, the occasion for this posting. In article <166@ubc-cs.UUCP> manis@ubc-cs.UUCP (Vince Manis) writes: >By the way, it's worth noting that the Roman Catholic Church frowns on all >non-procreative relationships. I recall a case a year or so ago in which a >sterile couple (heterosexual) was denied the rite of religious marriage, on >the grounds that a marriage in which children are impossible cannot be a >marriage at all. This is not correct. The Church says that impotency invalidates a marriage, not sterility. (I'm not interested in defending this position -- I'm just stating it correctly.) A marriage between two people who were (absolutely or relatively) sterile or infertile *would not* be annulled or prohibited (unless maybe for some other reason). A marriage, on the other hand, in which sexual congress was impossible would be held to be no marriage at all, as Vince writes. Thanks. God bless you all. -- Peace and Good!, Fr. John Woolley "Compared to what I have seen, all that I have written is straw." -- St. Thomas