Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site hpda.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!hplabs!hpda!on From: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Gays and stereotypes. (A relativly young perspective) Message-ID: <1351@hpda.UUCP> Date: Sat, 1-Mar-86 23:02:39 EST Article-I.D.: hpda.1351 Posted: Sat Mar 1 23:02:39 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Mar-86 01:48:45 EST References: <83@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> <3234@sun.uucp> <86@mit-amt.MIT.EDU> <25757@apple.UUCP> <745@harvard.UUCP> Reply-To: on@hpda.UUCP (Owen Rowley) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Cupertino, CA Lines: 40 Keywords: diversity, acceptance >In article <745@harvard.UUCP> baron@harvard.UUCP (Jeff baron) writes: >>In article <25757@apple.UUCP> richard@apple.UUCP (richard johnson) writes: > >>when the BP (Breeding Public...thanks Owen) ... > >I don't know about everyone else, but I find the term "breeding public" in >exceptionally bad taste. Actually, until last summer, I used the term here >and there. Then one day, a friend got very upset when the term came up. I think its interesting to see the reaction to this term. I used it in a posting because it was relevant to the subject I was addressing. Personaly I don't use it often , and when i do Its not meant as a put down. So I fail to see how it could be in bad taste . > >And you know what? She was right. Until gays learn to stop assaulting >straight people on such grounds as those, straights will continue to >be antagonistic. After all, they are not responsible for the fact that >gays cannot have children per se, just as gays are not responsible for >everything else that is wrong with the world. You canmake any descriptive term insulting by your use, The breeding public is a reality, and as it was pointed out by someone else ...it does not exclude Gays!!. Many Gay men and women are proud to breed. I have made a conscious decision not to refer to non gay people as "straight... for one thing I'm not bent or crooked . It is the heterosexual ruling culture that has been promoting an atagonistic attitude towards homosexuals, not the other way around. I suspect that there is a lot of Gay rage simmering under the surface. And theat ruling culture is gonna have to occasionally feel the sting of unreasoning prejudice before it will understand that ALL bigotry hurts someone. >I guess my message is just to think before you make what I would consider >to be rash comments. "Fighting" for gay rights does not include sinking to >the level of some straights in the gutter. your message is a reasonable one and we agree, now how can we get that message to the ones in the gutter! lux .. ON Owen Rowley