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From: laura@hoptoad.uucp (Laura Creighton)
Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.news
Subject: mod groups don't work -- here is someone else with a problem
Message-ID: <537@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: Fri, 21-Feb-86 03:07:03 EST
Article-I.D.: hoptoad.537
Posted: Fri Feb 21 03:07:03 1986
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Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco
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I keep getting mail about ``why don't you update your moderators file''?
To stave off further mail -- I think that my moderators file is just
fine.  And I still can't follow-up an article in mod.computers.workstations
and get the article sent to the moderator.

And I found this gem in net.news.b with no indication it was posted to
any other newsgroup.  I think that the ``mod groups don't work'' problem
is more than a problem with bnews.

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>From: dww@stl.UUCP (David Wright)
Newsgroups: net.news.b
Subject: Re: Proposed new mechanism for posting to moderated groups
Message-ID: <273@stl.UUCP>
Date: 18 Feb 86 20:43:28 GMT
Date-Received: 21 Feb 86 06:24:31 GMT
References: <478@kepler.UUCP> <247@maynard.UUCP> <9177@amdcad.UUCP> <122@jpusa1.UUCP> <9283@amdcad.UUCP> <503@hoptoad.uucp> <675@oliveb.UUCP>
Reply-To: dww@stl.UUCP (David Wright)
Organization: STL,Harlow,UK.
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I think the suggestion (to have a standard route back to a backbone
site for all moderators) is an excellent one - it would really solve
the problems I've been having - and which I guess many others have
too.  I just hope someone can find a way to do it WITHOUT all sites
needing new software!

You may remember my carrying out a vote for net.vms, eventually 97:7 in favour
(plus a few more late YES's and also "Now I've lost the vote, I look
forward to seeing net.vms after all"'s from two of the "No"'s).

But Gene Spafford suggested that with the change from fa.xxx to mod.xxx people
could all use mod.computer.vax instead of creating yet another net. group.
As he knows more about these things than I do, and clearly the net couldn't
stand any more groups (that was several new groups ago, but that's another
matter!), so we all waited for mod.computers.vax - and very useful it's been.

BUT for the six months since then, I have NEVER succeded in posting ANYTHING
to mod.computer.anything.  Initially the new moderators had been left out of
the local tables, but since then the problem has been getting to .ARPA.  I
cannot. No Way.   Yes yes I know there are routes to seismo etc. which get 
gatewayed into .ARPA (indeed I used to get them to work 1/2 the time once).
But now all local .ARPA traffic gets routed via the UK Usenet-ARPA gateway,
and I (or maybe this site?) am "not authorised" to post through that gateway.
And because my mail has to go through 2-3 "intelligent" mail routers to get
out of the UK, all attemps to 'get round' the UK problem are either re-routed
to the UK gateway or else returned as "unknown domain".

I have had useful info to post to mod.computer.vax (e.g. how about a
comparison table showing ALL the VAX's to 8800 incl., which would clear
up some of the confusion about the new VAX announcement).  But I can't
get through.

If it is not possible to route all moderator's mail via the backbone
sites then can an alternative "pure" uucp address be given for all
moderators, presumably 'aliassed' via a suitable ARPA route at some
site which CAN get to the gateways?  This would be REALLY HELPFUL.
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Me -- I'd like to see the vax table.  i wonder how many other people
have things that I would like to see but can't post them either...

Laura

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Laura Creighton		
ihnp4!hoptoad!laura 
laura@lll-crg.arpa