Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!seismo!lll-crg!qantel!ptsfa!ptsfc!rjw From: rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: Re: Harbors and harbours Message-ID: <521@ptsfc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Feb-86 15:02:39 EST Article-I.D.: ptsfc.521 Posted: Thu Feb 13 15:02:39 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Feb-86 05:36:43 EST References: <2788@sunybcs.UUCP> <22600003@tub.UUCP> Reply-To: rjw@ptsfc.UUCP (Rod Williams) Organization: Pacific Bell Lines: 29 > Ireland (gaelic + english) > Baile Atha Cliath (gaelic) == Dublin (english) > Corcaigh (gaelic) == Cork (english) > Luimneach (gaelic) == Limerick (english) Those of you wondering how Baile Atha Cliath came to be Dublin should know that Dublin is the anglicized version of the gaelic 'Dubh Linn' (approximately pronounced 'dhuv ling', meaning black pool. The gaelic version is no longer in use). If my memory serves me, Baile Atha Cliath (usually pronounced rather indistinctly as "balyawclee'uh", meaning the town of the ford of the hurdles) was the gaelic version of the Viking name for the city (most of the major coastal towns in Ireland were founded by the Danes). When the Danes were driven out of Ireland in 1014 (by the heroic High King Brian Boru at the Battle of Clontarf), the city was renamed Dubh Linn (or maybe I got it backwards :-)). In any case, the black pool and the ford of the hurdles seem to have gone along with the Danes (:-)). Side note: Ironically, though now living 6,000 miles away from my home town of Dublin (Ireland), I'm working about two miles away from Dublin (California). There are no black pools here either, but plenty of Fords (|-P) -- rod williams | {ihnp4,dual}!ptsfa!ptsfc!rjw ------------------------------------------- pacific bell | san ramon | california