Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site jplgodo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!oberon!smeagol!jplgodo!steve From: steve@jplgodo.UUCP (Steve Schlaifer x3171 156/224) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Electric Brae Message-ID: <571@jplgodo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Feb-86 14:01:06 EST Article-I.D.: jplgodo.571 Posted: Fri Feb 14 14:01:06 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 19-Feb-86 08:03:52 EST References: <736@brl-smoke.ARPA> <933@nmtvax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Jet Propulsion Labs, Pasadena, CA Lines: 32 Summary: how do spirit levels *prove* gravity is not amiss In article <933@nmtvax.UUCP>, shipman@nmtvax.UUCP (John Shipman) writes: > > "My cousins took me to see this neat thing called the 'Electric Brae'. > > Have you ever heard of it? A brae is a hill, and this one has a > > peculiar property: it defies gravity! We got over the crest of the > > hill, and cousin Tom put the car in neutral; now, it should have > > rolled down the hill, right? But no--the car coasted to a stop and > > then started backing up the hill!... > > ....... > > Has anyone visited such a spot? I haven't, but I remember one > of my secondary school science teachers said this was done by > providing erroneous vertical references. Artifacts that everyone > assumes are vertical, such as walls, phone poles, or conifers, > were all bent slightly to disorient the eye. > > Investigators should carry a pair of spirit levels to establish true > vertical. If the claim being made is that gravity is not pulling in the *right* direction, then the use of a spirit level at the location of interest would only *prove* that gravity was not pulling in the *right* direction. Rather, what is needed in this case is to measure the slope of the ground or whatever from a location where everyone agrees that the direction of the gravitational pull is OK. Possibly a surveyor or a civil engineer could explain how this might be done. Are the any such out there reading this? -- ...smeagol\ Steve Schlaifer ......wlbr->!jplgodo!steve Advance Projects Group, Jet Propulsion Labs ....group3/ 4800 Oak Grove Drive, M/S 156/204 Pasadena, California, 91109 +1 818 354 3171