Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!aplcen!jhunix!ins_akaa From: ins_akaa@jhunix.UUCP (Ken Arromdee) Newsgroups: net.origins,net.physics Subject: Re: Bogus Physics Message-ID: <2053@jhunix.UUCP> Date: Sun, 2-Mar-86 13:40:03 EST Article-I.D.: jhunix.2053 Posted: Sun Mar 2 13:40:03 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Mar-86 03:54:01 EST References: <368@ihnet.UUCP> Reply-To: ins_akaa@jhunix.ARPA (Ken Arromdee) Distribution: net Organization: TARDIS Repairs, Inc. Lines: 35 Xref: linus net.origins:2890 net.physics:3630 Summary: To net.physics, please clarify... >> 1) According to Einstein, it's relative--there _is_no_such_thing_ as >> absolute rest. You _can_ say that the sun goes around the earth; the math >> is just easier the other way. >> Kenneth Arromdee > >Oh come on folks!!! The sun (universe) does not twirl around the earth!!! >Einstein never even implied such a thing. >Motion is relative *only* when considering inertial reference frames, >as determined by Lawrence transformations. >Rotation is definitely not an inertial reference frame. >It is not a matter of mathematical complexity, >the earth really does rotate. >Put simplistically (as we must when posting to this newsgroup), >if the universe spun around the earth, it would fly apart, >and even nearby galaxies would be traveling faster than light. >Similarly, the earth revolves around the sun, >and the solar system revolves within our galaxy. >These are not arbitrary conventions, they are facts. >The amount of bogus physics in this newsgroup is astonishing. > Karl Dahlke This originally started with a challenge to a creationist to provide examples of his statement that there are empirical propositions more established than evolution, and he responded by saying the earth goes around the sun. Would net.physics readers please tell me how accurate my response was, as far as physics goes? (I am not a physics major, and it is quite possible I was wrong). -- "We are going to give a little something, a few little years more, to socialism, because socialism is defunct. It dies all by iself. The bad thing is that socialism, being a victim of its... Did I say socialism?" -Fidel Castro Kenneth Arromdee BITNET: G46I4701 at JHUVM and INS_AKAA at JHUVMS CSNET: ins_akaa@jhunix.CSNET ARPA: ins_akaa%jhunix@hopkins.ARPA UUCP: {allegra!hopkins, seismo!umcp-cs, ihnp4!whuxcc} !jhunix!ins_akaa