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From: kwh@bentley.UUCP (KW Heuer)
Newsgroups: net.physics
Subject: Re: Anyone heard of Mr. Neumann?
Message-ID: <609@bentley.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 3-Mar-86 21:24:00 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar  3 21:24:00 1986
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In article <654@ihlpl.UUCP> ihlpl!bde (Bryan Ewbank) writes:

>... an inventor named Neumann who had (he claimed) invented a device which
>produced more conventional energy that it used.  The kicker was that this
>device was somehow converting *magnetic* energy into electrical energy.
>The US Patent office turned him down ... "impossible to make."

Interesting that your article did not contain the phrase "Perpetual Motion
Machine".  I would wager that Mr. Neumann himself avoided that term.

Clearly that's what the Patent Office thinks it is; they got fed up with
all the PMM applications and made a rule to cover it.  If my understanding
is correct, Mr. Neumann can appeal that ruling by demonstrating a working
model of his device.  Since he has apparently chosen instead to appear on
the Tonight Show, I am somewhat skeptical.

If his device works, and is converting magnetic energy into electrical,
then the obvious question is, Where is the magnetic energy coming from?
Do you power it with a permanent magnet which gradually loses its magnetism,
or is it supposed to use the Earth's magnetic field, or what?