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From: mokhtar@ubc-vision.UUCP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
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Subject: Re: Israel/Iran/arms/rhetorics
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Date: Tue, 18-Feb-86 00:01:37 EST
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> Note that he doesn't mention what sort of arms the Israelis are allegedly
> providing.  Looking the quote, it's clear that it does not stand alone, but
> is pulled out of a larger context (note the "has continued").  Somehow I 
> suspect that an important part of the Observer story is being left out.

A. The "larger context" was the $1 billion oil-for-arms agreement which I did
   mention. You saw it as a an attempt to change the topic!
B. "Somehow I suspect" isn't good enough! *Read* the article  now that you
   have a NON-obscure source. Then you won't have to suspect! 
     
> In summary, the history of Farzin's argument is as follows:

That is, history of Farzin's argument according to Sam Cramer.
   
>	1.  An absurd charge (Israel gives arms to Iran, using the Iranians
>	    as a conduit for the supply of anti-Israel terrorists).

The "charge" is that Israel has continued to supply arms to Khomeini's regime.
Furthermore, Israel is aware that Khomeini's regime trains anti-Israel and
anti-American terrorists. 
   
>	2.  The absurd charge buttressed with the invocation of the name
>	    of an obscure and suspect source, but no quote.

A. My first source was obscure but that does not necessarily make it "suspect".
B. My first source was not in English. So I could not quote! I could translate
   and that's what I did.
C. My second source (Observer) is not obscure and so far you haven't called it
   suspect! 
  
> Be sure to tune in for next week's installment of "Farzin Mohktarian, Master 
> Rhetorician": "Chapter Two: the leading question."    [Sam Cramer] 

Yeah, isn't that better than tuning in to:
"Sam Cramer, Novice Rhetorician":
"Chapter N (N arbitrarily large): More of the same."?
                                                        Farzin Mokhtarian