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From: brandx@ihlpl.UUCP (H. D. Weisberg)
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Subject: Re: Forced Landing
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Date: Thu, 20-Feb-86 17:21:08 EST
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Posted: Thu Feb 20 17:21:08 1986
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> 
> Rather, Israel's enemies have unfortunately begun to use its
> tactics. It was Jewish terrorists in the mandate era who
> introduced indiscriminate terrorism to the Middle East. They
Wrongo.  It was the Arabs( who objected to Jewish immigration
and accomplishmnts on what was once useless land) that made
raids on Jewish land and, hence, began terrorists.
> were the first to refine it into an instrument of policy.
Sounds to me like you're giving a perfectly good description
of several Arab countries that come to mind.
> Palestinian terrorists are responding to decades of terror
> against them by Israel. Even after the creation of the state
> of Israel, Israeli terror did not leave Israel's neighbors
This is bulshit.  Israeli action has always been premeditated
by Arab agression.  
> alone. Raids on neighboring villages and killings of dozens
> of innocent villagers punctuated the "quiet years" before
> 1967. The way Israel terrorized the vilages of South Lebanon
> with regular shelling, the way Israel hunted and assasinated
> prominent Palestinian intellectuals (writers and poets known
Even if Israel had shelled Southern Lebanon,
would this justify murdering schoolchildren in Kiryat Shmona.
You have a short memory.  Any shelling of villages in Southern Lebanon
was a result of shelling of Northern Israel.
BTW, in some cases, radical Palestinians had a strange way of expressing
disagreement with "prominent Palestinian intellectuals" (THEY killed 'em)
You have your mind mixed up.
> not to be involved in violence), and the way Israel today 
> terrorizes the Palestinians under occupation and the Lebanese 
> in its "security buffer zone" are well documented. 
Again, any action taken by Israel (searches) are a result of indiscriminate
terrorist shellings and murdering.  
> It is also worthwhile to note that long before the recent
> rash of incidents in the mediterranean and Europe, Israel
> shot down a Libyan commercial jet in a manner not different
> from the Korean airliner incident. As usual, there were plenty
> of people to rationalize its action, which caused the death
> of over 200 innocent passengers.
I must confess my ignorance here (I'm sure someone else can address this.)

You try to make Israel the scapegoat for all the problems.  You conveniently
get the facts mixed up and twist them.  Frankly, I'm getting sick of
reading ignorance and lies that you and Farzin and Chedley go around
spreading.  You state your cases and when they're disproved you dig up
another lie.  One that sticks out in my mind is the one about how Arafat
and the PLO recognize Israel and the UN resolutions and all that.
I guess King Hussein isn't as well-informed as you are.  Didn't he just
give up on the PLO (I didn't say the Palestinians) because they refuse
to denounce terrorism and recognize Israel?