Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!aplcen!jhunix!ins_akaa From: ins_akaa@jhunix.UUCP (Ken Arromdee) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Reply to Sevener on Property Rights Message-ID: <1970@jhunix.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Feb-86 18:02:12 EST Article-I.D.: jhunix.1970 Posted: Fri Feb 21 18:02:12 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Feb-86 20:53:14 EST References: <1691@bbncca.ARPA> <536@whuts.UUCP> <1636@ihlpg.UUCP> <540@whuts.UUCP> <1641@ihlpg.UUCP> <551@whuts.UUCP> Reply-To: ins_akaa@jhunix.ARPA (Ken Arromdee) Organization: TARDIS Repairs, Inc. Lines: 24 >> > Tim Sevener >>Bill Tanenbaum >> > In the Soviet Union the argument is that all property, including Red Square, >> > is "owned by the State". Since the State owns the property it has the >> > right to prevent people from exercising their democratic rights. >> > Tell me how this is any different... >> It's very different, because there is only one state, but many mall owners. >I see. In order to have a right to free speech I have to own a mall..... No, because the mall owners, etc... don't all make same resrictions. Surely there's a mall somewhere which has an owner who would allow you to give out pamphlets. Or if not, an organization somewhere which will let you use its facilities to give out pamphlets. Or, for that matter, a street corner, park, etc... where you can legally give out pamphlets. In the USSR the state controls everything. There's a great difference between not being allowed to do something everywhere and not being allowed to do it anywhere. -- "We are going to give a little something, a few little years more, to socialism, because socialism is defunct. It dies all by iself. The bad thing is that socialism, being a victim of its... Did I say socialism?" -Fidel Castro Kenneth Arromdee BITNET: G46I4701 at JHUVM and INS_AKAA at JHUVMS CSNET: ins_akaa@jhunix.CSNET ARPA: ins_akaa%jhunix@hopkins.ARPA UUCP: ...allegra!hopkins!jhunix!ins_akaa