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From: ins_akaa@jhunix.UUCP (Ken Arromdee)
Newsgroups: net.college,net.politics
Subject: Re: CIA and terrorism
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Date: Fri, 21-Feb-86 17:51:40 EST
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>> Nobody supports terrorism, but it is possible to not support terrorism and
>> still support the CIA, if you don't believe the CIA supports terrorism.
>> Like it or not, it is a legitimate political position to believe that the CIA
>> does not support terrorism....  What's happening ...
>> is that a referendum is taken on a general principle that everyone believes in,
>> but in fact the principle is a code word for something that NOT everyone
>> believes in.  

>I think it is quite firmly established that the CIA supports terrorism.

So what?  It's still a legitimate political position to not think so.  The
people who take that position may be wrong, but that has no effect on my
argument.

>On the other hand, your second point has some merit.  Rather than
>simply *BAN* groups which are not liked (as Catholic University banned
>Eleanor Smeal because she is pro-choice) it is better to demonstrate
>*why* they should not be liked.
>      tim sevener  whuxn!orb

If a vote was taken among a representative section of the student body, asking
if the students believed both 1) that the CIA supports terrorism and 2) that
that groups supporting terrorism, including the CIA, should be
barred from campus, I could accept that.  But from
what has been said on the net, that seems not to be the case.  Rather, the
question is worded in such a way as not to mention the CIA, and people 
who don't believe the CIA supports terrorism would answer "yes" to the
question, said "yes" votes then being used to claim that students want the CIA
off campus, when in fact those particular "yes" votes mean nothing of the sort.
-- 
"We are going to give a little something, a few little years more, to
socialism, because socialism is defunct.  It dies all by iself.  The bad thing
is that socialism, being a victim of its... Did I say socialism?" -Fidel Castro

Kenneth Arromdee
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