Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 System V version 3.0 08-Feb-86; site simon_pc.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!amdcad!lll-crg!lll-lcc!simon_pc!simon From: simon@simon_pc.UUCP (Simon Shapiro) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Forced Landing Message-ID: <145@simon_pc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Feb-86 17:42:27 EST Article-I.D.: simon_pc.145 Posted: Wed Feb 26 17:42:27 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 20:58:16 EST References: <251@aero.ARPA> <11000121@uiucdcsb> <52@cad.UUCP> <618@ihlpl.UUCP> <7568@watlion.UUCP> Organization: S*H & Company, Walnut Creek, California Lines: 48 Summary: Re: Forced Landing... In article <7568@watlion.UUCP>, drsimon@watlion.UUCP (Daniel R. Simon) writes: > A recent posting has criticized the frequency with which the > Arab-Israeli ... I will not quote this excellent article but would like to add some personal comments; It is hard for me to sit and calmly watch or counter argue such melicious lying. I do not know the middle-east too well (I was born, raised, fought three wars and have family that has lived in Israel for 12 generations, sp far), so I will limit my comments to personal experiance and family memories only. Most of the hate and national violance between Jews and Arabs are relatively new. To understand it you have to go back to the British mandate times. So much of this hatred is a result of fanatic propaganda and is entranched so deeply in the young generation's mind (see my comment about school books from two weeks ago) that it will be impossible (almost) to resolve this situation. My comments about who is doing what to whom are not part of an ugly accusation game. It is a mere observation intended to suggest a solution. When we will see (sometimes violent) demonstrations in Arab countries for PEACE with Israel at any cost, like they happen in Israel, then wie will know time for peace has come. Untill then most all israelies (peace movement supporters and 'hawks' alike will protect their home and do it very well. There are enough internal, social controls in israel to curb violent terrism. Noone is interested in it or will support it (with the exception of the american born and raised :-) Rabby Cahannah). Actually, with this Cahannah creature, I doubt very n=much to what length will he go to prove his point. Remember, he has never been to the army, never fought a war, never lost a friend in battle. It is easy for him to talk. One Arab leader was realistic and practical enough to see that military victory against Israel is impossible (we have too much to loose) and signed a peace treaty with Israel. I do not think this action will be repeated. Blood feuding and hate are too deeply entranched in the middle east. I would like to close this blabbering with a repeat of my hope: I hope my son will not have to grow up like I, or my father did. I hope there will be peace before he is 18 years old. I want to loose sleep over mortgage, car payments, becoming a grandfather too soon, and not wether my sone will come home dead or alive. Simon.