Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Reagan and Alternatives:re to jj Message-ID: <1010@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 13:36:55 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.1010 Posted: Thu Feb 27 13:36:55 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 20:58:28 EST References: <155@jc3b21.UUCP> <1405@mhuxt.UUCP> <560@whuts.UUCP>, <1410@mhuxt.UUCP> <5044@alice.uUCp> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 49 > From jj: > You know, Tim, over the years you've blamed Reagan for a lot > of things. No, make that EVERYthing. > It's very interesting how you are very careful to not acknowledge > when Reagan does something you agree with, now isn't it, or is it perhaps > that you don't notice, since you know beyond any shadow of a doubt that > the man is evil beyond imagnination? > > (ihnp4;allegra;research)!alice!jj 1) It is simply untrue that I have *never* praised Reagan for anything. I noted last year that I was shocked at the Treasury I tax reform plan because it seemed to be a very good tax reform which I could support. I have also praised Reagan at other times, when I thought praise was deserved. Unfortunately those times have been very few. 2)Obviously Reagan is *not* responsible for everything nor even for all the bad things done by his Administration. While Reagan may wholeheartedly support many horrible policies, it is other conservative groups and extreme right-wingers who provide the legions in his army. For example, the Committee to Promote the Future Danger was very successful in mobilizing the Military-Industrial Complex against the SALT II agreement and convincing the public that the Soviets had achieved some sort of strategic superiority. They helped create the public climate in which a militarist like Reagan could be elected. But Reagan is the public symbol of these policies. So long as he retains popularity he and his staff argue his policies should be supported. I am determined to see that they are *not* supported. To do so requires pointing out Reagan for what he is: namely a pathological liar. Reagan certainly *IS* responsible for his own lies and distortions and for his own budgets. Congress shares the blame for passing the 1981 tax giveaway bonanza and largely approving $1.2 trillion for the military. But it is absurd to argue, as Reagan himself and his defenders have tried to, that he shares no responsibility for the current monstrous deficits or the current acceleration in the nuclear arms race. Reagan is the first President in 20 years to achieve absolutely NO arms control agreements. During his 5 years the Soviets have deployed hundreds of new nuclear weapons - are we safer? He has piled up more debt than all previous Presidents combined. Should he be absolved from any responsibility for such results? tim sevener whuxn!orb