Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site whuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!orb From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Reagan evil?: re to jj Message-ID: <1011@whuxl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Feb-86 13:51:58 EST Article-I.D.: whuxl.1011 Posted: Thu Feb 27 13:51:58 1986 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Feb-86 20:58:41 EST References: <155@jc3b21.UUCP> <1405@mhuxt.UUCP> <560@whuts.UUCP>, <1410@mhuxt.UUCP> <5044@alice.uUCp> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Whippany Lines: 77 > from jj: > You know, Tim, over the years you've blamed Reagan for a lot > of things. No, make that EVERYthing. > It's very interesting how you are very careful to not acknowledge > when Reagan does something you agree with, now isn't it, or is it perhaps > that you don't notice, since you know beyond any shadow of a doubt that > the man is evil beyond imagnination? Reagan's character: What is one to make of Ronald Reagan's constant distortions and untruths? For example: "Trees pollute" "There are more forests now than in Washington's day" "The US unilaterally disarmed during the 70's" "The SS troops at Bitburg were victims " "A Jewish girl just bat mitzvahed suggested I lay a wreath at Bitburg" "There is no segregation in South Africa" "Sending Margaret Heckler to Ireland is a promotion" "There was violence and fraud from both sides in the Phillipines" etc, etc, etc ad nauseum a)Reagan is simply stupid and uninformed the problem with this explanation is that when Reagan's lies, distortions or made-up stories have been pointed out to be false or totally unsubstantiated, he goes right ahead and uses the very same story again. Over and over and over..... Is he *so* stupid that he can't even remember being corrected? I doubt it. b)Reagan is the typical lying politician given that Reagan's distortions *always* favor his own political ideology this has some plausibility. But then he *is* so sincere in saying it, he never expresses the guilt of the liar who knows he is lying. c)Reagan truly believes what he says this is probably true but then how does what he says so frequently conflict with the facts even when they are pointed out to him? My explanation is a combination of all three causes. Reagan is very ill-informed on very many issues but not necessarily stupid. However he is also a pathological liar, i.e. somebody who not only incessantly lies, but somebody who *believes* his own lies and made-up stories. The pathological liar can never be uncovered on a lie detector test (or by the shifty eye test) because he comes to believe his own lies. Reagan used to simply make-up play by play announcements on radio when the ticker-tape broke. He does the same with making up stories about teenage welfare mothers living high on the hog, or students on student aid living in luxury, or the "communist dictatorship" in Nicaragua. He makes up convenient fictions which accord with his narrowminded view of the world. Does this mean he is "evil"? Not necessarily. Certainly his *intentions* are good given his narrowminded view of the world - everything would be a paradise if one could really perform such miracles as quadrupling the military budget, cutting taxes and still balance the budget. Or if one could have a magic technological wand to make nuclear weapons obsolete. But this is the type of fantastic thinking that pathological liars and the deranged engage in. But should a nation be so deranged? These types of fantasy may be comforting but they are *dangerous*. While Reagan spins out such fantasies, both the US and the Soviet Union are building 5 new nuclear weapons every *day*. Reagan plans on building 17,000 more nuclear weapons in the next decade. (Scientific American, Nov. 1982, charts on projected weapons) The MX missile, the Trident D-5 missile are *first-strike* capable weapons which make the nuclear standoff even more precarious. While the world spends $900 billion this year on weapons people are starving, without shelter, and desperately poor throughout the world. I think supporting such a policy is morally wrong, just as it was wrong to support slavery and wrong to support segregation. Most especially to support these policies by a web of lies is particularly repugnant. The lies should be exposed. That is what my articles are intended to do. tim sevener whuxn!orb