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From: jjboritz@watnot.UUCP (Jim Boritz)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Television coverage and censorship in Canada (in net.columbia??)
Message-ID: <11573@watnot.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 4-Mar-86 15:18:39 EST
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Posted: Tue Mar  4 15:18:39 1986
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Reply-To: jjboritz@watnot.UUCP (Jim Boritz)
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Summary: 

In article <12138@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> desj@brahms.UUCP (David desJardins) writes:
>In article <11544@watnot.UUCP> jjboritz@watnot.UUCP (Jim Boritz) writes:
>>I personally have a hard time saying that it was wrong to prosecute him.
>>What would you do if someone said that world war II never happened. Hitler
>>never existed, and never tried to take over the world.
>
>   I would ignore him, since I know that he is wrong.
>
 
You and I may be educated people, with minds of our own.  You have to remember
that there are more people out there that will believe almost anything that 
they are told, than there are educated people that will ignore such comments.
So you may well ignore him, but your opinion does not reflect upon the   
the opinion of the majority.  Now don't go and tell me that everyone one you
have talked to agrees with you, and that they would ignore him also.  I am
talking about those people with average educations.  Those that never went to 
college.  The average american.  By going to university or college you
have already placed yourself way above the average.

>   The Constitution says "freedom of speech."  This is what I believe in.
>Without conditions.
>
>   -- David desJardins

:-{) The constitution also allows groups like the KKK to exist, as well as the
American Nazi Party.  

Aparently their are laws in the US which will allow you to prosecute someone
that violates or breaches or is a threat to national security.

I also do not believe in censorship, but in my message I described how I 
would choose between the lesser of two evils.

Asides from this I would like to mention some things that are different in the
Canadian and American systems of justice.

In the US you tend to lean very heavily towards protection of the accused, and 
freeedom of the individual.  In fact you lean in this direction so heavily,   
that there are cases in which guilty persons have been set free because the
police violated the rights of this individual.

In Canada we lean towards the protection of society as a whole, and we place
less emphasis on the rights of the accused that we do on the rights of 
society. The arm of the law in Canada is much heavier in Canada than it is
in the US.  The biggest problem is that most Canadians know more about the
American Legal System than they know about the Canadian Leagl System.  I 
myself was one of these, luckily I have been told or taught what the 
differences are. Canada now has a constitution of its own.  Could you believe
that we existed for over a hundred years without a constitution. Imagine that.
:-) Somehow we haven't gone to hell in a handbasket, we haven't become 
socialists or communists or Nazi's.  We did not have 'Freedom of Speech' as
a right.  Yet we had it somehow.  We had no CIA or FBI or NSC .  When we got
our constitution though we soon after got the CSA (Civilian Security Agency)
They are probably not related, but sometimes I wonder.

Jim Boritz              
 
Time it was and what a time it was ... Paul Simon