Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ukma!psuvm.bitnet!psuvax1!burdvax!sdcrdcf!ucla-cs!verma From: verma@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.puzzle Subject: Re: puzzle (same old liar puzzle) (* spoiler? *) Message-ID: <8936@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Thu, 13-Feb-86 10:42:35 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.8936 Posted: Thu Feb 13 10:42:35 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Feb-86 06:22:55 EST References: <1644@hound.UUCP> Reply-To: verma@ucla-cs.UUCP (Thomas S. Verma ) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 43 In article <1644@hound.UUCP> 5125kaf@hound.UUCP (K.FRIEDMAN) writes: > >always lies. You can ask either person one question and only >one question in order to determine which way the hospital is. >What would be the question and to whom would you ask it? ^^^^^^^ >How would this question help you to determine which way to go? If I get to choose, then I will ask the truth teller which way to go. But if I dont know which one he is, then I would ask either one the question (pointing to either road): Is the truth value of the statement: 'That is the way to the hospital' the same as the truth value to the statement 'You never lie' ? If he says yes then the road I am pointing to must be the road to the hospital. There are four cases: 1) It IS the road, and he never lies the two statements are both thue, thus since he never lies, he will say YES 2) It IS the road, but he always lies the two statements do not have the same truth value, thus the answer is no, but he always lies, so he says YES 3) It IS NOT the road, and he never lies again the two are not the same, but he is the truth teller, thus he must say NO 4) It IS NOT the road, and he always lies the two statements are both false, but since he always lies he must say NO No flame intended, but hasen't everyone seen this puzzle in 2nd grade? no signature...