Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdragon.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!ulysses!burl!clyde!watmath!watnot!watdragon!gawilson From: gawilson@watdragon.UUCP (Graham Wilson) Newsgroups: net.puzzle Subject: New Puzzle (honestly...) Message-ID: <423@watdragon.UUCP> Date: Sat, 22-Feb-86 04:50:39 EST Article-I.D.: watdrago.423 Posted: Sat Feb 22 04:50:39 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 24-Feb-86 08:27:56 EST Reply-To: gawilson@watdragon.UUCP (Graham Wilson) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 23 I have read the last two or three hundred articles in new.puzzle, and I have not seen this one (or any variations). Credit goes to me (Graham Wilson) and Peter Fruchter. We originally thought it up as an analogy to explain Godel's Incompleteness Theorem... Consider a machine which is used to create true sentences (for example, the sentence "A dog is a dog" is true). If the machine is "complete", then it could, given time, produce the set of ALL true sentences. If the machine is "consistent", then all the sentences that it produces will be true. Question: Can such a machine exist (even in theory)? Note that your answer must involve an iron-clad proof (i.e. like a math theorem. Persons who have read "Godel, Escher, Bach, An...." by D.H. should consider disqualifying themselves. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Graham Wilson University of Waterloo gawilson@watdragon